From: Gavin Sinclair Date: 2002-12-03T11:34:42+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby Book for People Who Aren't (Yet) Programmers From: "Pe�a, Botp" > As a ruby newbie, I now shun from the "!" modifiers (eg name.chomp!) and ++ > idea. With lesser things to worry, I am now a very happy ruby newbie. > > So, for a newbie/non-programmer, I would advise the same (of course, I may > be wrong). Shunning from the idea of ++ is a great idea, because Ruby doesn't have it and doesn't need it. However, !-methods like chomp! are very useful, and quite easy to understand. If there's a problem understanding them from a newbie's POV, then we need to address that with simple, up-front documentation. There's probably info in the FAQ about it already, but the FAQ isn't very well known yet. Cheers, Gavin (always appreciating botp's thoughts ;)