From: MikkelFJ Date: 2002-10-25T20:44:38+09:00 Subject: Visual C++ controversy Pardon me for this somewhat off-topic issue. Because of the controversy of using the commercial Visual C++ compiler in the Windows distribution of Ruby, the following information could prove useful. Disclaimer: I'm not trying to push the product - I'm just saying that for people that do not have access to Visual C++, but want to develop Ruby extensions on Windows, there may be an opening: Microsoft Visual C++ .Net Standard Edition is being sold at a recommended retail price at 109$, seen at Amazon UK priced at �86. This version is for the hobby programmer and includes a non-optimizing compiler with a really good debugger / IDE. I've only worked with the professional edition, but I reckon the debugger / IDE works the same. I believe you can download the non-optimizing compiler with the .NET SDK, but then you do not get the debugger (AFAIK), and the download is 100MB+. If the generated code is too slow, you could always try using the gcc compiler with mingw, this will also help ensure portability between Windows / *nix. I'd like to know more about how well mingw integrates with the Visual C++ Ruby distribution. My guess is the only significant problem is the extconf.rb setup, thus it would be nice to be able to choose a compiler through a switch. In any case, it is very useful to have the Visual C++ debugger. Mikkel