From: Julian Fitzell Date: 2002-10-01T10:04:31+09:00 Subject: Re: announce@ == less email (FAQ item?) Sean Chittenden wrote: [...] > With my developer hat on, I only use Ruby and C/Ruby. With my DBA hat > on, I only use PostgreSQL and BDB. As a sysadmin, it's FreeBSD. I > work hard to be good at what I do and enjoy staying informed of what's > going on in each of those communities. When I read my email, I read > it in the order of 'inbox', 'cvs commit lists for projects I > maintain', 'cvs commit lists for the products I use', '-announce > lists', '-bug lists', '-security lists', '-bug lists', '-hacker > lists', '-admin lists', '-audit', '-arch', and generic user lists some > where down at the bottom of the pile. -talk, however, doesn't fit > nicely into that stratification. -talk is the bug list, is the > security list, is the -hacker list, is the -admin list, is -arch list, > and up until recently, used to be the -core list. [...] I have to totally agree. When I first started using ruby I subscribed to -talk and was blown away by the volume of mail. I even use different email addresses to subscribe to most lists so it's all broken up into folders for me already, but even then there's too much information for me to parse. I just can't make myself even skim all the subjects - I get too bored about half way through and just mark all as read. My solution at the moment is to filter this mailing list and only allow messages through with certain keywords like "web", "XML", etc. But this sucks because sometimes partial threads come through, plus I get, for example, all of David's messages since he has "web" in his sig :D It's very easy for someone who wants to read every single message about ruby to subscribe to multiple lists... it takes maybe a few minutes of their life, once. For the 95% of people who have more limited interests, it is difficult or even impossible to select only messages that are related to certain topics unless the lists are split up. Having one mailing list is like having lossy storage. The user who sends the message knows what their email is about, but as soon as they send that to the One Big Mailing List, that information is lost in a form that computers can understand. I can now no longer use a computer to categorize the mail for me. If it's split into separate lists, I can merge all the lists into one folder and there is no difference, but I now have the option of using that meta-information (what list the mail was in) to make some decisions. Always hold on to potentially-useful information until the last possible moment. Julian -- julian@beta4.com Beta4 Productions (http://www.beta4.com)