From: falseaddress@... (mr_scary) Date: 2002-09-30T14:56:01+09:00 Subject: Re: idea for a much needed application On 29 Sep 2002 15:10:59 -0700, rsrchstr@hotmail.com (mike henley) said the following: >I remember a while ago reading about tim burners-lee and how his >vision of the WorldWideWeb as a medium where all can freely and easily >publish information has not materialized properly, and i felt it so >strongly over the past week when trying to look at options for hosting >a website. Hosts are either expensive or limit you in terms of what >languages, modules, applications, and OSs you can use. They also limit >you in terms of space, bandwidth used per period, number of executions >of CGIs... etc. Some of those who give good deals, seem difficult to >trust with either your credit card number or your content. > >I wish i can just use my own computer, with whatever technologies I >choose, keeping my content that i build up over time safe here on my >own machine, but unless you have a broadband connection this is not >possible. It may be possible using a dynamic DNS provider, but then >again either they add cost, end up with an ugly URL, and, most >importantly, there's no way for others to know when you get online. So >here comes the idea that occured to me, and i post it here to ask if >you know of an application that already provides this functionality, >then please tell me what it is, or if you think it is worth doing on >an open source basis, or even proprietary, in which case i invite >anyone to do so, or if you think it's a completely stupid and >impossible idea, then perhaps you can please tell me why. > >You probably guessed if you read as far as the second paragraph that >what i'm thinking about is an application functionality that enables >instant messaging to provide the dynamic DNS functionality. So instead >of giving others a URL I can just give them an IM username they can >add to their client, and when i go online, through my humble dial-up >connection that changes IP whenever i log in, they'll be aware of my >presence, and be able to connect to a server i host on my machine. > >It sounds like a simple thing; IM presence, automatic IP query of my >username, click on my username and or use a contextual menu option or >whatever and a browser launches to go to the site i'm hosting on my >machine. Perhaps it can use existing open-source platforms, such as >jabber or gnutella, or as an add-on to existing open-source >applications/clients. Basically what i'm suggesting is a little tool >to enable a server such as apache to join the whole IM/p2p thing and >have "presence". The more automated it is, and the easier it is, the >better. I think such a functionality will be especially useful for >certain uses, in my case it will be hosting a wiki, as i leave my >machine online a lot through my dial-up, can't predict the number of >executions of CGI or the amount of space needed, wish to be free to >use whatever wiki application is best for my needs and in whatever >language regardless of what a host will support, and do not wish to >pay a monthly fee, extra charges, setup fee or a domain registration. >Perhaps there can be other areas where it is useful, and i'm sure >there are other areas where it will not be suitable. Perhaps there can >also be a simple way to enable a page hosted in such a way to be >submitted to search engines, i haven't thought about that yet, but >tell me if u see any. > >What do you think? already done, worth doing, stupid, or impossible? >(p.s. please also let me know if there are other newsgroup to which >posting this will be a good idea) If you want replies please be concise. I didn't read anything here.