From: Albert Wagner Date: 2002-09-03T23:14:29+09:00 Subject: OT: Just browsing... This is really just Sort-of_Off_Topic. I am currently in a state of code-burnout and was browsing the web to clear my head. Someone on this list, I think, is a principle on this wiki. I forget how I found it. I have noticed that whenever there is any kind of code challenge, by common agreement the metrics by which the entrees are judged are only speed and keystrokes. I personally always feel incompetent to send in an entry, because my experience has been business apps where correctness, maintainability (read: where it's not the language that confuses the maintainer but rather the implemented algorithm), and mutability. At any rate, I ran across this wiki page: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?MostGamesProgrammersDontGrokObjectOrientation It seems that many Ruby programmers have a "game progammer" mentality. Albert