From: JamesBritt Date: 2002-08-26T00:33:10+09:00 Subject: RE: vim-ruby...taking the bitterness out? > now somebody please tell me that all the cool ruby stuff will still work > when i add the Cream. please! Someone mentioned Cream here a while ago, and I gave it a shot. It does give Vim a simpler set of keyboard commands (e.g., it seems to keep you in one mode all the time, no matter what you try to do), but (as I recall) at the expense of other Vi-like behavior. I really couldn't tell you offhand just what problems I had, but I decided to go back to plain-old-Vim (with various macros). Having gotten used to hitting ESC for various purposes, I found it weird to find myself blocked from switching modes. (Of course, I now try to save documents in MS Word by hitting ESC :w, , so perhaps I need to create Vi mappings in VBA ... ) James