From: ts Date: 2002-07-15T18:04:31+09:00 Subject: Re: hey! where's #count? (clearing up degeneration) >>>>> "T" == Tom Sawyer writes: T> certanly it has order internally, but that order is not at all given to T> control by the programmer. yes, it will always come out in the same T> order, but there's no garuntee what that order will be, hence for all T> programmable purposes it is unordered. Well, try #each, #keys and #values and you'll see that the objects are given in the same order : this is (for me) important Guy Decoux