From: Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
Date: 2002-07-12T10:47:18+09:00
Subject: Re: opengl

On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 19:31, Dossy wrote:

> I take it you didn't try the named anchor tag approach I suggested?

my problem was a little too throny for that approach, though i'm sure i
could have tweked it out to work that way too. i did get it to work by
the way. it just took me awhile to get the javascript EXACTLY right.

i'll look into fxruby.

i also noticed that there is an interesting sdl based gui out there
called paragui. it may be worth making a wrapper for (?) anyone?

> I just can't get my mind wrapped around pixel-based GUI programming.
> Probably comes from doing 12+ years of coding character-based GUI
> applications (mostly vt100 and wyse60) and less than a year of
> pixel-based GUI programming.

i understand. whe it comes to hand coding gui i get right tired of it
right quick. that's why i created miter. perhaps i'll just have miter
generate fxruby forms instead of html. let you know how it goes.

~transami.


On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 19:31, Dossy wrote:
> On 2002.07.12, Tom Sawyer <transami@transami.net> wrote:
> > 
> > considering i've just spent 4 hrs trying to get my javascript to
> > reposition the html page after a submit, 
> 
> I take it you didn't try the named anchor tag approach I suggested?
> 
> > opengl forms gui, well, i'm thinking along these lines: a basic set of
> > objects including a container pane which can have optional scrollbars
> > attached to it, a table object which can have spanning cols and rows,
> > each cell of which is a pane, and your basic set of form objects: text,
> > text input (single and multiline), checkbox, radio buttons, dropdown,
> > combobox, multiple selection list, regular button, and perhaps a knob
> > and a tree, and an input grid. i think that would be enough. i don't
> > want to over complicate the matter.
> 
> Sounds like all the widgets available in FOX via FXRuby ... *cheap plug*
> 
> > notice: i'm scrapping my web application. now i'm in the market for a
> > gui. i still wish to use ruby. it needs to run on linux, windows, and
> > mac. recommendations?
> 
> FXRuby.  Look into it.  Most definitely.
> 
> > if anyone is interested in working with me on an opengl forms gui
> > toolkit, i would prefer to take this route. i can can compensate a
> > little. takers?
> 
> I'm not really interested in an OpenGL version, but I might be inclined
> to work on a forms designer for FXRuby since my GUI programming skills
> are way weak -- I even have trouble laying out dialogs the way I want in
> Tk, which is pathetically simple with most of the packing managers.
> 
> I just can't get my mind wrapped around pixel-based GUI programming.
> Probably comes from doing 12+ years of coding character-based GUI
> applications (mostly vt100 and wyse60) and less than a year of
> pixel-based GUI programming.
> 
> Something that let me WYSIWYG lay out forms for FXRuby, save the form
> as a list of widgets, their coordinates/dimensions, and hook them up
> to code that handles events for each widget ... that would be a dream!
> 
> Maybe I should start implementing this and use it as inspiration to
> work on the FXBook project (which isn't dead, just resting!) ...
> 
> -- Dossy
> 
> -- 
> Dossy Shiobara                       mail: dossy@panoptic.com 
> Panoptic Computer Network             web: http://www.panoptic.com/ 
>   "He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own
>     folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on." (p. 70)
> 
-- 
~transami

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