From: james@... Date: 2002-07-08T03:24:11+09:00 Subject: RE: Pre-RCR... nil.empty? > But Dave - CGI? I'm disappointed. ;-) As opposed to what? mod_ruby? I have a web site at www.jamesbritt.com. It's built with Ruby. The hosting service provides various tools, such as Perl, PHP, MySql, at a decent price, but they don't have Ruby. I asked them to install Ruby & mod_ruby, but they were reluctant, and said I could install my own copy of Ruby and run CGI scripts if I liked. (I had already been doing that, and I wonder if they knew that.) My adventures installing Ruby and running CGI scripts in a machine where I could never be root, nor alter the httpd.conf file, were interesting. Given the current dearth of Ruby-friendly hosting services, it made me wonder how best to construct web stuff that were easy to install and maintain when the user had restricted control over the host server. What I would like to see are more "Even a parrot can install it" web tools for blogging, wikis, content management, and so on. I recently tried to set up a Ruby-based Wiki, but the two I am aware of are, for me, either too confusing or feature-rich for my needs. I wound up installing the 'usedmod' Wiki, written in Perl, because you literally untar the archive, edit two lines, and it works. Now, it's about 4K lines of Perl code, with logic and presentation horribly mashed together, but the ease of installation and use can't be beat. So, for many folks, CGI is the only Ruby option, and more "parrot-friendly, untar and go" CGI apps would be a Good Thing to promote Ruby. James > > Avi >