From: Jan Witt Date: 2002-06-26T15:14:16+09:00 Subject: Re: Andy Roonie meets Perl vs. Ruby... (I couldn't resist) Dwarves on Giant's shoulders You guys and dolls seem to be a little too trigger-happy, when discussing the pros and cons of Perl, Java and Ruby and their implementations. Nobody is questioning Matz's eclectic genius in assembling so many good things in Ruby in such a clean and consistent fashion. But why did e.g. Ada, Smalltalk, CLOS not make it? Why did Perl get such a wide following? Why are the Ruby lower level primitives so Perlish? And why is Java the real kludge of kludges? "A system is a way of looking at the world"(Gerry Weinberg) The "minimum astonishment" principle requires people to have a common or at least convergent understanding of basic mechanisms (of the language, not somebody's library packages). If given the choice, I personally prefer the bare-bones see-through character of Perl to the ad-hoc stupidities of Java syntactic infelicities and source pileups. by the way, my name in real life is Jan Witt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com