From: Ian Macdonald Date: 2002-06-22T02:44:17+09:00 Subject: Re: Why is I/O slow? (OT) On Fri 21 Jun 2002 at 22:23:21 +0900, Austin Ziegler wrote: > I'm more annoyed by the fact that basic GUI operations don't > necessarily work as expected in X-Windows -- and it's not primarily > the underlying window manager's fault. It's the fact that in the > name of 'freedom and choice', consistency has been thrown completely > out of the window by most developers of X software. I don't use X apps very much. Pretty much the only X apps I regularly use are Eterm, Mozilla and xmms (and, by extension, WindowMaker). Everything else is terminal based. When I need to run other apps, I try to stick with GTK software where possible. This gives me the consistency that you speak of. Of course, that's just the desktop side. We have thousands of headless servers at work that neither have nor need GUI apps. I'm just not a typical user. > > I'm not advocating making Windows more like UNIX at all. I have no > > interest in Windows beyond dealing with the fall-out that its > > flawed applications create for the rest of the computing world. > > Funny. I'll admit that there are a lot of flawed Windows programs > out there -- that's not hard to admit. But there's a lot of flawed > X-Windows programs out there, too. (There's a lot of flawed command > line programs out there, e.g., find, for all of its power.) Sure, but when I talked of fall-out, I didn't mean navigating the man pages of complex commands like find and tar, but the repercussions of running criminally negligent software like Outlook. I'm not a Linux zealot, I hasten to add. Outlook, when coupled with Exchange, has some tremendous functionality to offer, but for me, it just doesn't weigh up against the nightmare of fending off virus propagation. Unfortunately, the sphere of influence of badly designed and implemented Windows software extends beyond the desktops of those who use it. An entire industry has sprung up around combatting e-mail viruses, for example, which is entirely a gift from the Windows using world. Much of this doesn't matter to your average desktop user, of course. He just wants to get his work done and could care less about the plight of networked server admins. I understand and accept that. Ian -- Ian Macdonald | volcano, n.: A mountain with hiccups. ian@caliban.org | | | |