From: David Alan Black Date: 2002-05-19T18:21:20+09:00 Subject: Re: ANN: Programmierung in Ruby On Fri, 17 May 2002, Juergen Katins wrote: > Dear Dave > Being three years old my daughter will still stay at home for a long > time. But I am aware of the day our baby will leave home to discover > the wild world, to visit foreign countries and to make new friends we > will never set our eyes on. > Your baby is leaving home now! This opening statement is without doubt the most unpleasant thing I have ever read or heard anyone in the Ruby community say to anyone else in the Ruby community. It's not clear to me how you became the intellectual property _pater familias_, the arbiter of what's right and what's wrong on behalf of the rest of us. That, of course, is the implication of your obnoxious metaphor: a book's "leaving home" means that it has rebeled against its license and is ready to have *you* decide what should happen to it. But it's hardly worth discussing the metaphor seriously, when clearly your purpose is simply to express contempt for Dave. > I did want to avoid just the same difficulties Dave is struggling with > now! I changed to the more restrictive GPDL to garantee my translation > and any derived works to stay free. I believe that you have not changed the license. I see nothing in the OPL to support the claim that your translation is not OPL'd. I maintain that all you have done is obscure the license, by deleting the required wording and inserting irrelevant wording pertaining to a different, inapplicable license. > If my translation should be retranslated and return to the USA that > returning version will be a free one. I'm surprised that you would try to predict something like this, given your evident belief in the translator's right to change license terms. > I visualize the bad example of "Addison-Wesley Verlag" Germany > publishing their translation under totally closed licence. I > absolutely dont want to let something like that happen with my > translation. I imagine that neither the authors nor AWL wanted "something like" the claim of a non-OPL'd translation to "happen" to the book -- which is presumably why they took the trouble to OPL it. David -- David Alan Black home: dblack@candle.superlink.net work: blackdav@shu.edu Web: http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav