From: Peter Hickman Date: 2012-12-27T21:50:28+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby Association Certified Ruby Programmer --e89a8f923f506ab07604d1d49bd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 27 December 2012 11:28, Arlen Christian Mart Cuss wrote: > Lets start with the basics. >> >> Has anyone heard of this "Ruby Association" before? >> > > Yes -- it's chaired by Matz himself. > > Well I am very disappointed in that case, but that leaves questions 2 and 3. Has anyone taken it or interviewed someone who has taken it? Looking at the web site we have the following: Number of questions 50 (multiple choice) Passing score 75% Target version Ruby 1.8.7 Scope The execution environment: Execution method, Command-line options, Environment variables and irb Syntax: CommentLiteralVariables, constants, and scope, OperatorsConditional branching, LoopsException handling, Method calls, BlocksMethod definition, Class definition, Module definition Built-in libraries Built-in functions Built-in classes Object orientation :Polymorphism Inheritance mix-in That is 18 topics and only 50 questions. So only 2.7 questions per topic, so just how deep can you get into exception handling with 3 questions? Too many topics and too few questions, seriously just imagine trying to put together some questions just to see if the candidate understood constants. Would you be confident in the coverage with 2.7 questions given that every question you ask reduces the questions that can be asked in other topics. Even irb would require 3 or 4 questions Given that this is the silver (lowest) level and the syllabus for Gold and Platinum have not been defined since 2011 and we are almost on 2013 and looking towards Ruby 2.0 I stick with my assertion that this certification is worthless. Perhaps certification is a Japanese concern --e89a8f923f506ab07604d1d49bd8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On 27 December 2012 11:28, Arlen Christian Mart Cuss <= ar@len.me> wro= te:
Lets start with the basics.

Has anyone heard = of this "Ruby Association" before?

Yes -- it's chaired by Matz himself.


Well I am ver= y=A0disappointed=A0in that case, but that leaves questions 2 and 3. Has any= one taken it or interviewed someone who has taken it?

Looking at the web site we have = the following:

Number of questions 50 (multiple choice)
Passing score 75%
Target version Ruby 1.8.7

Scope

The execution environment: Execution method, Command-line options, Environm= ent variables and irb
Syntax: CommentLitera= lVariables, constants, and scope, OperatorsConditional branching, LoopsExce= ption handling, Method calls, BlocksMethod definition, Class definition, Mo= dule definition
Built-in libraries
Built-in functions
Built-in classes<= /div>

Object= orientation :Polymorphism Inheritance mix-in

That = is 18 topics and only 50 questions. So only 2.7 questions per topic, so jus= t how deep can you get into exception handling with 3 questions? Too many t= opics and too few questions, seriously just imagine trying to put together = some questions just to see if the candidate understood constants. Would you= be confident in the coverage with 2.7 questions given that every question = you ask reduces the questions that can be asked in=A0other=A0topics. Even i= rb would require 3 or 4 questions

Given that this is the silver (lowest) level and the=A0syllabus=A0for Gold= and Platinum have not been defined since 2011 and we are almost on 2013 an= d looking towards Ruby 2.0 I stick with my=A0assertion=A0that this certific= ation is worthless.

Perhaps certification is a Japanese concern

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