From: Peter Hickman Date: 2012-12-27T19:13:06+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby Association Certified Ruby Programmer --047d7b33db12d92f6804d1d2cafa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 27 December 2012 01:28, Sean Westfall wrote: > How well respected is this certification in the industry: Ruby > Association Certified Ruby Programmer. > > Lets start with the basics. Has anyone heard of this "Ruby Association" before? Has anyone taken this exam to tell us what it's like? Has anyone interviewed a candidate who has taken such an exam? I suspect that the answers are, in no particular order, No, No and No. That should tell you something. I've recently decided I'd like to switch to being a Ruby on Rails > developer. The languages I have the most experience in are Java, C and > Perl. If you can't use your experience as a Java, C and Perl programmer (especially Perl seeing as it is a dynamic language) and a couple of books to get yourself up to speed as a Rails developer then, to be honest, I question your abilities as a programmer in any of those languages. If after X years experience as a programmer using Java, C and Perl the best you can put on your CV is some dumb certificate then I suspect that you are a really really crap programmer. > So I've been thinking about getting a certification to help me > with landing a entry level position. > Your X years as a programmer in Java, C and Perl should be what will get you an entry level position. Actually why are you aiming for an entry level position at all? Surely a programmer with X years experience should be aiming higher. Could it be that your experience as a Java, C and Perl programmer amounts to nothing? > > The RACRP isn't that expensive at $150, and I'm not sure how hard it is, > but I'd imagine the harder it is the better (right?). > > If you think that paying $150 for a piece of paper that will make people laugh in you face is money will spent then go ahead. Personally I would think that $150 is 4 or 5 good books on Rails. Perhaps the question you should be asking is "I am new to Rails development and have $150 to spend, what books would people recommend to help me become a well rounded developer" > Is it worth the time? > > Sure it is. All they have to do is put together some simple questions on Rails, print a certificate from a $15 program and they get to pocket $150. Damn wish I had thought of that first as it seems that there are people stupid enough to part with money for useless bits of paper. This all might sound brutal but lets be frank here, the fact that you even consider this make me question your judgement. > Thanks > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > --047d7b33db12d92f6804d1d2cafa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 27 December 2012 01:28, Sean Westfall <lists@ruby-f= orum.com> wrote:
How well respected is this certification in = the industry: Ruby
Association Certified Ruby Programmer.



Lets start with t= he basics.

Has anyone heard of this &q= uot;Ruby Association" before?
Has anyone taken this ex= am to tell us what it's like?
Has anyone interviewed a candidate who has taken such an exam?

I suspect that the answers are, in no= =A0particular=A0order, No, No and No.

= That should tell you something.

I've recently decid= ed I'd like to switch to being a Ruby on Rails
developer. The languages I have the most experience in are Java, C and
Perl.


If you can= 't use your experience as a Java, C and Perl programmer (especially Per= l seeing as it is a dynamic language) and a couple of books to get yourself= up to speed as a Rails developer then, to be honest, I question your abili= ties as a programmer in any of those languages. If after X years experience= as a programmer using Java, C and Perl the best you can put on your CV is = some dumb certificate then I suspect that you are a really really crap prog= rammer.

=A0
So I've be= en thinking about getting a certification to help me
with landing a entry level position.

Your X years as a programmer in Java, C and Perl should = be what will get you an entry level position. Actually why are you aiming f= or an entry level position at all? Surely a programmer with X years experie= nce should be aiming higher. Could it be that your experience as a Java, C = and Perl programmer amounts to nothing?
=A0

The RACRP isn't that expensive at $150, and I'm not sure how hard i= t is,
but I'd imagine the harder it is the better (right?).



If you thin= k that paying $150 for a piece of paper that will make people laugh in you = face is money will spent then go ahead. Personally I would think that $150 = is 4 or 5 good books on Rails. Perhaps the question you should be asking is= "I am new to Rails development and have $150 to spend, what books wou= ld people recommend to help me become a well rounded developer"

=A0
Is it worth the time?


Sure it is. All they have to do = is put together some simple questions on Rails, print a certificate from a = $15 program and they get to pocket $150. Damn wish I had thought of that fi= rst as it seems that there are people stupid enough to part with money for = useless bits of paper.

This all might sound brutal but lets be fra= nk here, the fact that you even consider this make me question your judgeme= nt.

=A0
Thanks

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Posted via http://= www.ruby-forum.com/.


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