From: "Jan E." Date: 2012-12-16T09:41:22+09:00 Subject: Re: Wondering About Flatiron School Hi, promising to "turn you into a web developer" in 12 weeks (even if you have no previous experience) is just laughable and stinks of snake oil. Learning to program takes *years* of practicing. Just ask the guys in this forum. In Germany, for example, becoming a "programmer" takes 3 years. And that's some pretty intense training, which consists of both working at a company and going to school. Many companies even require you to have solid programming skills beforehand. So after those 12 weeks you will *not* be a web developer who's actually fit for the job. If they're good, they'll give you a basic overview of different techniques. If they are bad, they'll teach you nothing but a bunch of buzzwords and tell you that you're a "Ruby rockstar" now. So I'd be very sceptical about this. Personally, all this hipster-talk alone makes we wanna close the page immediately. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.