From: "Kevin Y." Date: 2012-12-16T08:40:19+09:00 Subject: Re: Wondering About Flatiron School Chad Perrin wrote in post #1089161: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 11:51:08AM +0900, Kevin Y. wrote: >> 1.Tuition = $10k >> 2.It is very new and is untested. >> 3. Can't you achieve the same effect alone or studying through >> Skillshare/MeetUps? >> 4.Job Placement >> >> Their syllabus look great and many outsiders in programming communities >> praise students' work. I was just hoping that perhaps some of you have >> more information on this school and whether you think it is worth the >> investment. > > It all comes down to how best you learn, your priorities, and your > resources. $10K is a hell of a lot of money for something that *can* > conceivably be learned on your own. On the other hand, a structured > class setting offers a form of mentorship and some help with rapid skill > uptake, including the time pressures from externally imposed deadlines. > > Ultimately, I do not think that these programs are worth anywhere near > that much money in and of themselves. Two things that might make them > worth more are both tangential to the skill acquisition: > > 1. possible job placement help > 2. employers valuing documented instruction over autodidactic learning > > The first is mostly valuable only because of the second, which means > that > the biggest benefit from such a program in the general case is bypassing > employment gatekeepers who feel the need to justify hiring > recommendations through key resume bullet points rather than relying > solely on actual suitability to the job. > > There are specific cases where the benefits of the hands-on > instructional > model might be more valuable to a given student than the increased > ability to slide into the job market. This relates specifically to > people whose best prospects for learning come from that instructional > model, though -- and not to people whose learning is best served by > other > approaches to acquiring skills. > > So . . . the upshot is that, unless the Flatiron School is just garbage, > the answer is "It depends." Hi Chad, Thanks for your generous respond. The case study you provide is something that has been replaying over my mind for the last couple days. At this point, I decided on the following things. 1.Flatiron School is legit in that the program will greatly help you getting vast knowledge and experience in very little time. 2. Still, I can't count on being placed or finding a job right after graduation. Rather, it is more likely that I will have to spend 1-2months finishing up portfolio and applying for jobs. (which cannot happen with out #1) 3.10K is a rip off. However, the benefits outweigh. Colleges are bigger rip offs. 4. Two alternatives: quit my job, spend 6 months preparing with the 10K I won't spend on the school instead of 3months. Attend many Skillshare classes and use CodeSchool and such. or attend Other programs. Hunter College Front End Development Certificate Program: $3400.00 http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/ce/certificates/computer/web-programming NYU Wed Develpment Intensive course:$4000.00 http://www.scps.nyu.edu/content/scps/academics/course_detail.html?id=INFO1-CE9742 -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.