[#395238] rubygem: ispunity (unite all your internet connections) — Arun Tomar <tomar.arun@...>

Dear friends,

12 messages 2012/05/01

[#395250] Overwriting one Ruby array or arrays with another — Craig Law <lists@...>

Hi

14 messages 2012/05/02

[#395258] array of strings - finding letter combinations — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...>

Hi All,

16 messages 2012/05/02

[#395357] Why Enumerator#next does not return more than one value? — Földes László <lists@...>

If I have an Enumerator which yields elements of a mathematical series

10 messages 2012/05/07

[#395373] How to use Data_Wrap_Struct to assign the DATA VALUE to an exsiting Ruby object? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, my code receives an arbitrary klass name (provided by the user)

8 messages 2012/05/07

[#395429] passing via instance variable or regular () — sam jam <lists@...>

def first

10 messages 2012/05/10

[#395463] I'm looking for a Metaprogramming Project — Phil Stone <lists@...>

Hello,

19 messages 2012/05/11

[#395548] A million reasons why Encoding was a mistake — Marc Heiler <lists@...>

Newcomer wants to try Ruby.

15 messages 2012/05/15
[#395561] Re: A million reasons why Encoding was a mistake — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2012/05/15

[#395595] Re: A million reasons why Encoding was a mistake — Brian Candler <lists@...> 2012/05/16

I will add that the OP is not entirely alone in his opinion.

[#395551] How to ensure that a block runs entirely after other threads? (Thread.exclusive does not "work") — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, I expected that in the following example code, thread t1 would not

8 messages 2012/05/15

[#395575] GUI with ruby on windows — David Acosta <lists@...>

hello friends, i am a begginer and i have a litlle question, how can i

17 messages 2012/05/16

[#395604] what is going wrong here? — roob noob <lists@...>

Notice the initialization of both classes in each of the examples, if

20 messages 2012/05/16

[#395646] rb_gc_register_address() or rb_gc_mark()? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, I've bad experiences with rb_gc_register_address(), it does never

16 messages 2012/05/17

[#395686] reading from and writing to a Unicode encoded file — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...>

Hi,

19 messages 2012/05/18
[#395694] Re: reading from and writing to a Unicode encoded file — Regis d'Aubarede <lists@...> 2012/05/18

Hello,

[#395697] Re: reading from and writing to a Unicode encoded file — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/05/18

Regis d'Aubarede wrote in post #1061272:

[#395698] Re: reading from and writing to a Unicode encoded file — Regis d'Aubarede <lists@...> 2012/05/18

Sebastjan H. wrote in post #1061276:

[#395699] Re: reading from and writing to a Unicode encoded file — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/05/18

Regis d'Aubarede wrote in post #1061277:

[#395750] Re: reading from and writing to a Unicode encoded file - issues when using Shoes — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/05/21

Hi,

[#395754] Re: reading from and writing to a Unicode encoded file - issues when using Shoes — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/05/21

Sebastjan H. wrote in post #1061483:

[#395740] ? Ruby through CGI and Rails — Shaun Lloyd <list@...>

Hi everybody,

22 messages 2012/05/21
[#395764] Re: Ruby through CGI and Rails — Brian Candler <lists@...> 2012/05/21

Shaun Lloyd wrote in post #1061455:

[#395786] Re: Ruby through CGI and Rails — Shaun Lloyd <list@...> 2012/05/22

On 22/05/12 03:37, Brian Candler wrote:

[#395838] Re: Ruby through CGI and Rails — Brian Candler <lists@...> 2012/05/23

Shaun Lloyd wrote in post #1061602:

[#395787] Changing self class from inside a method?? — David Madison <lists@...>

Let's start off with the assumption I want a method that allows an

10 messages 2012/05/22

[#395841] Memory-efficient set of Fixnums — George Dupre <lists@...>

Hi,

25 messages 2012/05/23

[#395883] looking for a ruby idiom : r=foo; return r if r — botp <botpena@...>

Hi All,

11 messages 2012/05/24

[#395966] Am I justified to use a global variable if it must be used in all scopes? — Phil Stone <lists@...>

Hello,

12 messages 2012/05/27

[#396010] does this leak more than the size of the string via timing side channels — rooby shoez <lists@...>

string1 = "string"

16 messages 2012/05/29

[#396038] Is it possible to avoid longjmp in exceptions, Thread#kill, exit(), signals? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, my Ruby C extension runs a C loop (libuv) without GVL. At some

8 messages 2012/05/29

A million reasons why Encoding was a mistake

From: Marc Heiler <lists@...>
Date: 2012-05-15 13:11:31 UTC
List: ruby-talk #395548
Newcomer wants to try Ruby.

Newcomer comes on IRC and asks for help.

Newcomer is on Windows.

Newcomer installs Ruby 1.9.3 and manages to run it. IRB works for him.

Newcomer then installs radiant via:

  gem install radiant

Newcomer runs into problems:

  http://paste.ubuntu.com/988874/

The relevant part:

C:/Ruby193/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/defaults.rb:64:in `exist?':
"\x8D" to UTF-8 in conversion from Windows-1254 to UTF-8
(Encoding::UndefinedConversion Error) from
C:/Ruby193/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/defaults.rb:64:in `def
ault_path'

It is a known fact that I do not like the Encoding situation in Ruby at
all. But I am old and can deal with myself being grumpy.

What about newcomers though? This is about the first impression
they get from Ruby.

Do we really want to send them over the cliff into Encoding
problems like this?

Do we really want to force newcomers to deal with this mess?

How are they supposed to resolve problems like this ON THEIR OWN?

Back then, years ago, matz said that he wants to put the emphasis of
Ruby on "how programmers feel" when using a programming language. And I
learned ruby because of that interview back then.

Ruby is still absolutely awesome.

But the Encoding situation, if newcomers are confronted with this,
simply kills the fun they may have had when trying to use and code in
Ruby.

I'd appreciate it if anyone can tell me how they can resolve situations
like this, because I also recommended to use rubyinstaller. But the next
time, I will simply recommend people to stick to 1.8.7 instead, because
that ruby version is the better ruby.

The real ruby.

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