[#385051] How to order Structs based on two fields — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, I've a struct like this:

20 messages 2011/07/01
[#385052] Re: How to order Structs based on two fields — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2011/07/01

2011/7/1 I=C3=B1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>:

[#385057] Re: How to order Structs based on two fields — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/07/01

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:55 PM, I=F1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote=

[#385069] Offering Help — Joe Peric <peric.joe@...>

I'm new to Ruby and I am willing to learn. Anyone need help on a

18 messages 2011/07/01
[#385072] Re: Offering Help — Jeremy Heiler <jeremyheiler@...> 2011/07/01

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Joe Peric <peric.joe@gmail.com> wrote:

[#385073] Re: Offering Help — Joe Peric <peric.joe@...> 2011/07/01

Never heard of it, but I'll get right on it. Thanks.

[#385082] Re: Offering Help — Joe Peric <peric.joe@...> 2011/07/02

Just finished this. I had to find some more info on exceptions to get

[#385083] Re: Offering Help — Jeremy Heiler <jeremyheiler@...> 2011/07/02

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Joe Peric <peric.joe@gmail.com> wrote:

[#385102] symbol vs string for hash keys — Intransition <transfire@...>

What are the important factors to consider when deciding whether to

12 messages 2011/07/03

[#385160] Fatal Error with Ruby/GTK2, Homebrew, Green Shoes, and OSX Snow Leopard — Timothy Barnes <barnes7td@...>

I posted the below question to the Shoes mailing list and got back the

10 messages 2011/07/09

[#385194] RubyInstaller Extras — Jon <jon.forums@...>

Since 2009, we've been pleased to include Huw Collingbourne's The Book of Ruby with RubyInstaller. Well now, Huw has a newly updated version, and he's published it with No Starch Press.

11 messages 2011/07/12

[#385207] Creating a range of directories — Simon Harrison <simon@...>

I'm wanting to create a range of directories with a prefix, like the

13 messages 2011/07/13

[#385276] Is there a more efficient way to remove data from a string? — Eddie Catflap <catflaporama@...>

Hi

9 messages 2011/07/15

[#385297] Help needed for a new release of text-hyphen — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...>

I've had folks asking me for a release of text-hyphen that works with

12 messages 2011/07/15

[#385326] Comparing hashes based on their keys — Stefano Mioli <stefano.mioli@...>

Hi list,

13 messages 2011/07/15

[#385342] moving a 1.8.6 install? — Roggie Boone <rogboone@...>

Is it possible to move the gems from a Ruby 1.8.6 install on an (old)

10 messages 2011/07/15

[#385410] Better name for #zip_with — Intransition <transfire@...>

Any ideas for a better name for:

13 messages 2011/07/18

[#385452] Ruby + USB + CCTV Camera Driver? — "Bob Carpenter." <rgc3679@...>

I want to write a Ruby driver that handles the feed from A CCTV camera.

23 messages 2011/07/18
[#385459] Re: Ruby + USB + CCTV Camera Driver? — William Rutiser <wruyahoo05@...> 2011/07/18

On 2011-07-18 1:00 PM, Bob Carpenter. wrote:

[#385461] Re: Ruby + USB + CCTV Camera Driver? — "Bob Carpenter." <rgc3679@...> 2011/07/18

William Rutiser wrote in post #1011466:

[#385462] Re: Ruby + USB + CCTV Camera Driver? — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2011/07/18

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Bob Carpenter. <rgc3679@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#385464] Re: Ruby + USB + CCTV Camera Driver? — "Bob Carpenter." <rgc3679@...> 2011/07/18

Hassan Schroeder wrote in post #1011472:

[#385471] Re: Ruby + USB + CCTV Camera Driver? — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2011/07/18

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Bob Carpenter. <rgc3679@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#385474] Re: Ruby + USB + CCTV Camera Driver? — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/07/18

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Hassan Schroeder

[#385477] Re: Ruby + USB + CCTV Camera Driver? — "Bob Carpenter." <rgc3679@...> 2011/07/19

Phillip Gawlowski wrote in post #1011503:

[#385509] A beginner question. — "Cajus A." <cajus_@...>

Hi i'm trying to write and example program where you speak to a

12 messages 2011/07/19

[#385542] Splitting strings — Ryan Mckenzie <ryan@...>

Hi all,

18 messages 2011/07/19

[#385565] error building ruby p290 — Dev Guy <devguy.ca@...>

I get the following build error on my Linux box while trying to build

12 messages 2011/07/20

[#385629] Are Job Ads OK? — Lee Hughes <lee@...>

Is it OK to post Ruby job ads on this forum?

12 messages 2011/07/21

[#385847] String manuplation example — kotin 76 <kotin76@...>

Hi,

15 messages 2011/07/27

[#385860] Counting lines of code in a ruby code file ignoring method code lines in the process — Harry Truax <htruax@...>

Hello,

8 messages 2011/07/27

[#385936] Help in Pointer — Tridib Bandopadhyay <tridib04@...>

Hello

18 messages 2011/07/29

[#386012] Ruby a "4th generation language"? Credible sources? — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...>

I've noticed that Wikipedia says that "C#, Java" are 3'rd generation

13 messages 2011/07/31

[#386050] system stack error in ObjectSpace.each_object — luke gruber <luke.gru@...>

Hey guys, I'm just starting to mess around with metaprogramming in Ruby,

14 messages 2011/07/31
[#386052] Re: system stack error in ObjectSpace.each_object — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/07/31

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 4:29 PM, luke gruber <luke.gru@gmail.com> wrote:

[#386055] Re: system stack error in ObjectSpace.each_object — luke gruber <luke.gru@...> 2011/08/01

> Typically, SystemStackError is due to recursing for too long, perhaps I

[#386058] Re: system stack error in ObjectSpace.each_object — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/08/01

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 3:56 AM, luke gruber <luke.gru@gmail.com> wrote:

Ruby Readline - and why ruby can learn from python

From: Marc Heiler <shevegen@...>
Date: 2011-07-18 20:02:52 UTC
List: ruby-talk #385465
Lately I wanted to have <TAB> completion work for some of my scripts
where I use readline. For some reason, this was easier in bash with the
command "complete" than in pure ruby, and I wondered about this ...

Now then, I looked at Ruby's docu about Readline:

  http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib/libdoc/readline/rdoc/index.html

I guess this is the official docu about Readline.

I make it to the point:

- If you call this "documentation" then you are like tossing cold water
over the face of someone new to ruby.

This is not documentation.

This is really more of a bad, horrible joke. It is so horrible that the
better service to everyone would be to REMOVE the official documentation
and let people google for Readline docu in Ruby. Because this way, they
are likely to find A BETTER DOCUMENTATION (save for the API perhaps, but
you could just display the source).

I did search. I looked around a bit and indeed, there is elegant and
nice documentation about Readline. For example, here:

  http://bogojoker.com/readline/

With explanations and examples.

This should become a standard. It does not contain enough information of
course, but still, it is MUCH MUCH better than the crappy official
documentation.

I am still struggling to find how to EASILY have tab complete working
without getting my head diluted into procs and why I'd need them anyway.
(Yes, the actual example is more complicated than that, but every few
months later I need it, and when I look at the crappy documentation for
Readline I am pulling at my hair.)

I love ruby. From a design point, it is much better than Python.

HOWEVER, please compare the python documentation about Readline:

  http://docs.python.org/library/readline.html

It comes with working examples! It comes bundled in a BIG, FAT "online"
book version. THIS is how documentation should be. Really, this is where
ruby could learn from python.

Even php allows at least user added hints on how to best use this!

Why is the Ruby world stuck in the year 1999 when it comes to
documentation please? Throw rdoc away. Entirely. Remove it. Dismiss it.
Tear it apart. This tool is doing nothing other than giving people the
WRONG idea how to DOCUMENT things.

Look at RoR too:

  http://api.rubyonrails.org/

Sorry, but this is not documentation. This is called a MESS.

It is time to find a better alternative, FOR THE SAKE OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE
IN THE WWW YEAR 2011.

And if you don't want to listen to my rant while I dig painstakingly
into the Readline crap, then please, at least learn from python in how
to properly document stuff. I gave you the link above to python, dig
around and try to understand why python is able to document itself
properly yet ruby fails like a pathetic newbie here.

It's for the better for all of us if the docu becomes better, honestly.

But not in little steps. It is time to make the documentation adhere to
standards that try to look into the future - because right now, rdoc is
stuck in 1999. And in ten years, it will have reached ... the standard
of 2001 ...

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