From: "Wilde, Donald S" Date: 2011-06-03T00:31:48+09:00 Subject: Re: What editor or IDE do you use? -----Original Message----- From: Chad Perrin [mailto:code@apotheon.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:13 PM To: ruby-talk ML Subject: Re: What editor or IDE do you use? On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 08:35:33AM +0900, Wilde, Donald S wrote: >> >> Which is why I REALLY want to get Ruby ported to my little target, so >> if anyone has a clue as to how I can get past the little linker >> bugaboo that has make failing to pass a symbol file name to ld... > I wish I could help, but that's beyond my areas of expertise. > I find stories like yours about what people have done with Ruby, > without needing the heavyweight support tools that are part of > daily life with languages like C++, interesting -- and, of course, > it's always nice to have my sense of working with the > language confirmed by others' similar experiences. One of the things I've been watching more and more as systems and web programming matures is the way that doing a job right requires multiple programming languages. UNIX started it with awk and sed and TeX mixed in with shell script, and the Web almost requires JavaScript on top of whatever else you use. One area where Rails is definitely 'done right' is in its wrapping of database functionality. If you want to have nightmares, just take a quick glance at the Zend framework. (I'm not kidding, you WILL have nightmares) Such multi-lingual programming takes you beyond any IDE really quickly. C++ is a really special case. It's the only language I know which has multiple distinct layers of syntax within itself, and that helps make it really opaque when reading someone else's code. If their idioms are different than yours, look out! Thanks for the commiseration, Chad. It's beyond my expertise too, but I'm about to the point where I'm going to have to become an expert if I want it to fly.