From: Josh Cheek Date: 2011-04-16T02:42:07+09:00 Subject: Re: Chad Perrin --20cf3054ab87e8fbe904a0f88eb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Everett L Williams II wrote: > *Ryan,* > > > Ryan Davis wrote: > >> On Apr 14, 2011, at 14:24 , Everett L Williams II wrote: >> >> >> >>> *Hasn't anybody in the management of this forum the guts to either quiet >>> or dispatch Chad Perrin before he manages to do more damage than he already >>> has. >>> >>> >> While I find Chad to be a complete ass on many occasions, including >> (especially?) on the Functional programming thread, I don't see how it would >> even be feasible or reasonable to do anything. This "forum" as you call it >> is both a mailing list, a usenet group, and at least one web forum. >> >> The "damage" that Chad causes is irritating at best. The rest is in your >> head. >> >> > And in the head of every noob who stumbles into his arrogant and ill > tempered rants. > > He cannot be reasoned with, he sees all who disagree with him as the >>> enemy, and he attacks constantly. >>> >>> >> I completely agree. And? >> >> >> >>> However much he may contribute to Ruby, he will contribute to it's demise >>> if he continues without moderation. >>> >>> >> The ironic part is I know of absolutely no public contributions (gems, >> etc) to ruby coming from chad other than his participation on this mailing >> list. >> >> Chad cannot contribute to Ruby's "demise"... at this point, you sound like >> a drama queen. Or maybe a teenage emo girl. Those might be equivalent. >> >> > Cute, but I have been on the internet since it was ARPANET. My company used > it to transfer an IBM compatible Pascal for the Australian AED for use on a > project. As in your case, he merely irritates me, but his attacks on noobs > ideas or anything that is not spelled as Ruby will chase of those newcomers > before they can become active, at least in some cases. And, he accuses > anyone who argues with him of being a troll. That is not something that is > good for the language. If there is no moderation hereabouts that can at > least admonish, then this is less and less likely to be a useful place. If > that is being a drama queen or emo as you so sweetly put it, then I am > guilty as accused. Since I am leaving, you and those like you will have to > judge how long you can put up with such nonsense. > > I have no idea of Chad's contributions or lack thereof. I have just noted > that he often replies to noobs. > > He appears to be quite expert in Ruby, but if he attacks every other >>> method of working as if it were the enemy, he cannot benefit the cause in >>> either the short or the long run. In any case, he has certainly caused me to >>> lose my taste for further adventures in Ruby. That is no great loss, but >>> others might be. >>> >>> >> While that is certainly your choice... I'd suggest you man up and learn to >> ignore people you don't like. Chad != Ruby. The world (and the internet) is >> a harsh mistress and you need a thicker skin if you're to get anything done. >> >> > This isn't a testosterone joust. It is supposed to be a place where ideas > are discussed and help is asked and offered. My suggestion to you is not to > offer foolish advice that you would not offer in person. > It is certainly difficult to have any respect for an individual who has so > little respect for teachers, when it is a skill that, by his own admission, > he lacks. And, by the way, I can play just as rough as the next person, but > I seldom find it necessary or desirable. Having examined Ruby fairly > closely, I leave because I don't find it worth the effort, especially when > that involves putting up with nonsense like Chad. I attempted to take the > discussion offline, but now he complains that is harassment. Since there is > no venue for complaint, I have posted in the forum, and I am leaving, so you > may dissect the corpse as you will. > > > Everett L.(Rett) Williams II > >> Please unsubscribe me from this list. >>> >>> >> You can unsubscribe yourself. >> >> >> > > Unsubscribe here: http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/community/mailing-lists/ --20cf3054ab87e8fbe904a0f88eb5--