From: Chad Perrin <code@...>
Date: 2011-04-15T09:10:38+09:00
Subject: Re: Chad Perrin

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On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:14:20AM +0900, Johnny Morrice wrote:
>=20
> Also, past history of trolling
> E.g. http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2010-07/msg00759.html

That was an interesting read.  There were exactly two sentences in that
wall of text that appeared at all relevant to the comments to which it
was a response:

    Your very attitude towards Logo betrays your basic problem. Logo has
    matured into a capable and useful language, not at all limited to
    little kids, though still useful as a starting point for those kids.

For the record, I agree: Logo, at least in the UCBLogo implementation, is
a "serious" programming language.  Its limitations as a language suitable
to "real world" use are entirely a result of the fact that Logo was a
victim of its own success; it did so well in the '80s as an educational
language for young children that everybody assumed that was all it could
do, ignoring its robust capabilities.  It is, in fact, in many ways the
LISP originally envisioned by McCarthy (which is, in fact, in many ways
less interesting than what Common Lisp and Scheme have become -- but is
still an underrated language).

The rest of what ELW said was . . . well.  I'll keep my thoughts to
myself on that, I guess.  No need to perpetuate the problem.  I just felt
like commenting on the Logo mention; it's a good language, even if
someone like ELW likes it too.

--=20
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]

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