[#380721] Can you search in REXML by attributes? — "Kyle X." <haebooty@...>

Hello and thank you to all the wonderful and helpful people at this

19 messages 2011/04/01
[#380737] Re: Can you search in REXML by attributes? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/04/01

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:53 AM, Kyle X. <haebooty@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#380755] Re: Can you search in REXML by attributes? — "Kyle X." <haebooty@...> 2011/04/01

Robert K. wrote in post #990336:

[#380762] Searching a CSV file - beginner seeking help — Simon Harrison <simon@...>

Hi all. I've written a little script to search a csv file for films. It

10 messages 2011/04/01

[#380843] Using grep on subarrays - help! — Simon Harrison <simon@...>

Can anyone help with this? I thought grep would find any element that

12 messages 2011/04/03

[#380849] Splitting each_cons? — Simon Harrison <simon@...>

I'm not sure if each_cons can do what I'm trying to achieve:

13 messages 2011/04/03

[#380883] pipe question — wolf volpi <wolf_volpi@...>

What does the pipe in this example do?

15 messages 2011/04/04

[#380949] functional languages -- any recommendations? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...>

Haskell, Scala, or Erlang? Which one is the best?

18 messages 2011/04/05

[#380977] Separate new lines from an output — "Leo M." <leo.mmcm@...>

Hello!

12 messages 2011/04/05

[#381015] Match a pattern multiple times, returning matches, captures and offset? — Markus Fischer <markus@...>

Hi,

10 messages 2011/04/05

[#381035] capture the output of a grandchild — Chandan Bansal <chandan89@...>

hi

12 messages 2011/04/06

[#381075] Hello — Moises Montenegro <moemonty@...>

Hello,

43 messages 2011/04/06
[#381086] Re: Hello — James Nathan <badlands_2004@...> 2011/04/07

hello I am trying to get it stated myself, but I am not sure if I am setting Ruby up right.

[#381155] Re: Hello — James Nathan <badlands_2004@...> 2011/04/08

I am having a hard time to get it up and running. that is Ruby and Ruby on Rails. it seems that no one is willing to help so that we can enjoy this porgram. If their anyway that I can get it downloaded to me, some help to make sure that have the right porgrams.

[#381263] Re: Hello — James Nathan <badlands_2004@...> 2011/04/10

does the Free Ride program for Ruby the command program that I need to run and write my program?

[#381308] Re: Hello — James Nathan <badlands_2004@...> 2011/04/11

is there a disk that we can seen off and use. so that we can all the parts of ruby and ruby on rails. I would like this disk.

[#381313] Re: Hello — jake kaiden <jakekaiden@...> 2011/04/11

James Nathan wrote in post #992175:

[#381314] Re: Hello — Vincent Manis <vmanis@...> 2011/04/11

On 2011-04-11, at 16:50, jake kaiden wrote:

[#381322] Re: Hello — James Nathan <badlands_2004@...> 2011/04/12

I will just give up on Ruby and Ruby on Rails for now=20

[#381347] Re: Hello — James Nathan <badlands_2004@...> 2011/04/12

No, I will try another program to learn to write a program. Ruby is just to=

[#381351] Re: Hello — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/04/12

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:27 PM, James Nathan <badlands_2004@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#381358] Re: Hello — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2011/04/12

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Phillip Gawlowski

[#381087] Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Clifford Heath <no@...>

Folk,

44 messages 2011/04/07
[#381099] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/04/07

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Clifford Heath <no@spam.please.net> wrote:

[#381107] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/04/07

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Robert Klemme

[#381109] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/04/07

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Phillip Gawlowski

[#381115] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/04/07

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Robert Klemme

[#381182] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Clifford Heath <no@...> 2011/04/08

On 04/07/11 19:19, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#381187] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/04/08

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Clifford Heath <no@spam.please.net> wrote:

[#381233] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Clifford Heath <no@...> 2011/04/09

On 04/08/11 20:12, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#381269] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2011/04/11

Top-replying with a general observation: you can't please everyone all the =

[#381274] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Clifford Heath <no@...> 2011/04/11

On 04/11/11 10:02, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#381337] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/04/12

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Clifford Heath <no@spam.please.net> wrote:

[#381393] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Clifford Heath <no@...> 2011/04/13

On 04/12/11 19:09, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#381399] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2011/04/13

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Clifford Heath <no@spam.please.net> wrote:

[#381402] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Clifford Heath <no@...> 2011/04/13

On 04/13/11 15:51, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#381416] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2011/04/13

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Clifford Heath <no@spam.please.net> wrote:

[#381469] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Clifford Heath <no@...> 2011/04/13

On 04/13/11 22:23, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#381506] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2011/04/14

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Clifford Heath <no@spam.please.net> wrote:

[#381510] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Clifford Heath <no@...> 2011/04/14

On 04/14/11 15:36, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#381876] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2011/04/19

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Clifford Heath <no@spam.please.net> wrote=

[#381970] Re: Hash Surprises with Fixnum, #hash, and #eql? — Clifford Heath <no@...> 2011/04/21

Charles,

[#381090] can we use direct ruby instaed of javascript ? — Sniper Abandon <sathish.salem.1984@...>

Hi Ninjas,

29 messages 2011/04/07
[#381113] Re: can we use direct ruby instaed of javascript ? — Peter Zotov <whitequark@...> 2011/04/07

On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 15:44:50 +0900, Sniper Abandon wrote:

[#381136] Re: can we use direct ruby instaed of javascript ? — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/04/07

On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 09:50:14PM +0900, Peter Zotov wrote:

[#381147] Re: can we use direct ruby instaed of javascript ? — Peter Zotov <whitequark@...> 2011/04/07

On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 01:48:58 +0900, Chad Perrin wrote:

[#381160] Re: can we use direct ruby instaed of javascript ? — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/04/08

On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 05:37:49AM +0900, Peter Zotov wrote:

[#381167] Re: can we use direct ruby instaed of javascript ? — Julian Leviston <julian@...> 2011/04/08

I think it might be actually quite interesting for the original poster =

[#381195] Re: can we use direct ruby instaed of javascript ? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/04/08

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Julian Leviston <julian@coretech.net.au>wrote:

[#381125] String.gsub with regex and block — Alexey Petrushin <axyd80@...>

Probably a stupid question, but is there a way to use :gsub replacement

12 messages 2011/04/07

[#381210] Calling to_enum on a MatchData object — Vahagn Hayrapetyan <vahagnh@...>

Hi, I have the following snippet of code:

15 messages 2011/04/08

[#381281] Copying parameters to singleton class — Lars Olsson <lasso@...>

Hi list!

23 messages 2011/04/11

[#381306] Creating a full application with Ruby — Fily Salas <fs_tigre@...>

Hi,

22 messages 2011/04/11

[#381355] Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...>

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Vincent Manis <vmanis@telus.net> wrote:

37 messages 2011/04/12
[#381365] Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) — andrew mcelroy <sophrinix@...> 2011/04/12

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Phillip Gawlowski <

[#381373] Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/04/12

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:48 PM, andrew mcelroy <sophrinix@gmail.com> wrote:

[#381388] Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) — Vincent Manis <vmanis@...> 2011/04/13

OK, so here's another kick at the can.=20

[#381420] Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/04/13

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Vincent Manis <vmanis@telus.net> wrote:

[#381430] Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) — Vincent Manis <vmanis@...> 2011/04/13

On 2011-04-13, at 05:59, Josh Cheek wrote:

[#381434] Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/04/13

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Vincent Manis <vmanis@telus.net> wrote:

[#381487] Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) — Vincent Manis <vmanis@...> 2011/04/14

On 2011-04-13, at 08:03, Phillip Gawlowski wrote:

[#381495] Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/04/14

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:35:42AM +0900, Vincent Manis wrote:

[#381530] Re: Ruby for beginners (was: Re: Hello) — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/04/14

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Chad Perrin <code@apotheon.net> wrote:

[#381423] so, who's writing a dedicated ruby ide? — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

The recent thread on newbie-friendliness and a "ruby in a box" IDE

11 messages 2011/04/13

[#381444] Tk : non blocking Tk.mainloop — Juju SL <jujusl@...>

Hi all,

21 messages 2011/04/13

[#381547] Running Ruby script in emacs — duke <sidney.reilley.ii@...>

Hey ...

14 messages 2011/04/14

[#381548] To Yield or Not to Yield: An Inferable Question — Michael Edgar <adgar@...>

Hi Rubyists,

14 messages 2011/04/14

[#381562] What do you do when you need to attach data to an object instance? — "Aaron D. Gifford" <astounding@...>

What do you do when you see a need to be able to attach some data to

17 messages 2011/04/14
[#381566] Re: What do you do when you need to attach data to an object instance? — Kevin Mahler <kevin.mahler@...> 2011/04/14

Aaron D. Gifford wrote in post #992841:

[#381573] Re: What do you do when you need to attach data to an object instance? — "Aaron D. Gifford" <astounding@...> 2011/04/14

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Kevin Mahler <kevin.mahler@yahoo.com> wrot=

[#381582] Re: What do you do when you need to attach data to an object instance? — "Aaron D. Gifford" <astounding@...> 2011/04/14

> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Kevin Mahler <kevin.mahler@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#381596] Re: What do you do when you need to attach data to an object instance? — Kevin Mahler <kevin.mahler@...> 2011/04/15

Aaron D. Gifford wrote in post #992887:

[#381567] Re: Chad Perrin — Everett L Williams II <rett@...>

*Hasn't anybody in the management of this forum the guts to either quiet

16 messages 2011/04/14

[#381605] looking for an "inversion" pattern — Fearless Fool <r@...>

I'm sure there's a clean way to do this in Ruby, but I haven't figured

13 messages 2011/04/15

[#381622] Get the real object in a Hash key — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, let's suppose this simple code in which I add internal attributes

14 messages 2011/04/15
[#381623] Re: Get the real object in a Hash key — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/04/15

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 2:50 PM, I=F1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote=

[#381626] Re: Get the real object in a Hash key — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2011/04/15

2011/4/15 Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>:

[#381644] Extract a range i.e. svr[100..130] ? — Richard Sandoval <skolopen@...>

What best method could extract the range of a given list of servers?

13 messages 2011/04/15

[#381742] Telnet "More?" — "Eric T." <erictetz@...>

I'm trying to use the telnet library. I don't know Ruby AT ALL

15 messages 2011/04/17

[#381768] Tail Call Optimization (Tail Recursion) — Terry Michaels <cmhoward@...>

I did some googling to find out if Ruby supports tail call optimization,

18 messages 2011/04/18

[#381781] Need for speed -> a C extension? — Martin Hansen <mail@...>

Hello all,

28 messages 2011/04/18
[#381788] Re: Need for speed -> a C extension? — "WJ" <w_a_x_man@...> 2011/04/18

Martin Hansen wrote:

[#381792] Re: Need for speed -> a C extension? — Martin Hansen <mail@...> 2011/04/18

WJ wrote in post #993576:

[#381794] Re: Need for speed -> a C extension? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2011/04/18

[#381836] Re: Need for speed -> a C extension? — Martin Hansen <mail@...> 2011/04/19

>> def match?(char1, char2)

[#381849] Re: Need for speed -> a C extension? — brabuhr@... 2011/04/19

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Martin Hansen <mail@maasha.dk> wrote:

[#381853] Re: Need for speed -> a C extension? — Martin Hansen <mail@...> 2011/04/19

unknown wrote in post #993757:

[#381822] anonymous closures with Proc,new, lambda and -> — Stu <stu@...>

I am new to the study of functional paradigm. If this question is academic

32 messages 2011/04/19
[#381829] Re: anonymous closures with Proc,new, lambda and -> — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2011/04/19

Stu wrote in post #993687:

[#381830] Re: anonymous closures with Proc,new, lambda and -> — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2011/04/19

Brian Candler wrote in post #993704:

[#381875] Re: anonymous closures with Proc,new, lambda and -> — Stu <stu@...> 2011/04/19

how would i break it down to two functions?

[#381884] Re: anonymous closures with Proc,new, lambda and -> — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2011/04/20

Stu wrote in post #993854:

[#381890] Re: anonymous closures with Proc,new, lambda and -> — Stu <stu@...> 2011/04/20

Lots of helpful information in this thread. Thank you all for helping me.

[#381942] Re: anonymous closures with Proc,new, lambda and -> — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2011/04/20

Stu wrote in post #993922:

[#381946] Re: anonymous closures with Proc,new, lambda and -> — Steve Klabnik <steve@...> 2011/04/20

Naw, monads are actually really, really easy. They're just poorly

[#381952] Re: anonymous closures with Proc,new, lambda and -> — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2011/04/20

Steve Klabnik wrote in post #994098:

[#381958] On the Capitalization of Project Files — Intransition <transfire@...>

I have noticed a trend with regards to the case of project files. In

10 messages 2011/04/20

[#382043] Reversing a string without using array, classes and reverse function — Rubist Rohit <passionate_programmer@...>

I am trying this:

20 messages 2011/04/22

[#382092] How to split dot “.” only before equal “=” — Sira PS <ploy.sukachai@...>

I need to split dot only before equal to assign to hash

10 messages 2011/04/23

[#382156] Replace any multiple whitespaces with single white space — Michelle Pace <michelle@...>

Hello, I need to make the first string below into the second string.

10 messages 2011/04/25

[#382264] File position and buffers — Cee Joe <cyril_jose@...>

Hi all,

22 messages 2011/04/27

[#382292] Is everything object ? — "amir e." <aef1370@...>

Hi

35 messages 2011/04/28
[#382296] Re: Is everything object ? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/04/28

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:48 AM, amir e. <aef1370@gmail.com> wrote:

[#382306] Re: Is everything object ? — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/04/28

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 08:52:35PM +0900, Josh Cheek wrote:

[#382318] Re: Is everything object ? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/04/28

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Chad Perrin <code@apotheon.net> wrote:

[#382334] Re: Is everything object ? — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/04/28

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 02:23:32AM +0900, Josh Cheek wrote:

[#382347] Re: Is everything object ? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/04/28

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Chad Perrin <code@apotheon.net> wrote:

[#382356] Re: Is everything object ? — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/04/29

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 08:39:14AM +0900, Josh Cheek wrote:

[#382361] Re: Is everything object ? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/04/29

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Chad Perrin <code@apotheon.net> wrote:

[#382395] Re: Is everything object ? — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/04/29

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 01:09:25PM +0900, Josh Cheek wrote:

[#382416] Re: Is everything object ? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/04/29

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Chad Perrin <code@apotheon.net> wrote:

[#382429] Re: Is everything object ? — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/04/30

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:01:48AM +0900, Josh Cheek wrote:

[#382310] Initialize Struct from Hash — Brian Candler <b.candler@...>

I just want to check I've not missed something here. Is there a built-in

10 messages 2011/04/28

[#382312] calling methods, beginner help — Ronnie Aa <liquid98@...>

Hello Guys,

13 messages 2011/04/28

[#382350] Ruby Beginner Need Help.. — Didin Ibnu Sarnan <didinna@...>

Hi,

18 messages 2011/04/29
[#382352] Re: Ruby Beginner Need Help.. — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2011/04/29

Didin Ibnu Sarnan wrote in post #995669:

[#382354] Re: Ruby Beginner Need Help.. — Didin Ibnu Sarnan <didinna@...> 2011/04/29

Hi,

[#382401] How do I read HTTP POST XML sent to CGI? — Ting Chang <aumart@...>

Hello Ruby Masters,

14 messages 2011/04/29

[#382452] Why defining a constant in a method is not allowed but using self.class.const_set is allowed? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, assinging a value to a constant within a method is not allowed

14 messages 2011/04/30
[#382454] Re: Why defining a constant in a method is not allowed but using self.class.const_set is allowed? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/04/30

On 30.04.2011 21:25, I=F1aki Baz Castillo wrote:

[#382456] Re: Why defining a constant in a method is not allowed but using self.class.const_set is allowed? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2011/04/30

2011/4/30 Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>:

[#382465] Re: Why defining a constant in a method is not allowed but using self.class.const_set is allowed? — Christopher Dicely <cmdicely@...> 2011/04/30

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:58 PM, I=C3=B1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> w=

[#382466] Re: Why defining a constant in a method is not allowed but using self.class.const_set is allowed? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2011/04/30

2011/5/1 Christopher Dicely <cmdicely@gmail.com>:

Re: can we use direct ruby instaed of javascript ?

From: Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...>
Date: 2011-04-11 13:17:51 UTC
List: ruby-talk #381293
Accidentally went off list for a bit.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Michal Suchanek <hramrach@centrum.cz>wrote:

> On 11 April 2011 14:35, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Michal Suchanek <hramrach@centrum.cz>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 11 April 2011 12:02, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Michal Suchanek <
> hramrach@centrum.cz>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On 8 April 2011 15:03, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> > That is incredibly cool! But can you really implement *any*
> >>> >> > language?
> >>> >> > What
> >>> >> > about languages that are completely different from javascript? In
> >>> >> > Haskell,
> >>> >> > for example, everything happens lazily, data is immutable, there
> is
> >>> >> > a
> >>> >> > complex type system. Can you really map this right to javascript?
> >>> >> > (or am
> >>> >> > I
> >>> >> > misunderstanding OMeta?)
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> This is incredibly cool but can you really translate any language
> into
> >>> >> machine code?
> >>> >> What about languages that are completely different from machine
> code?
> >>> >> In Haskell, for example, everything happens lazily, data is
> immutable,
> >>> >> there is a complex type system. Can you really map this right to
> >>> >> machine code? (Or am I misunderstanding your question?)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Michal
> >>> >
> >>> > Your phraseology is confusing, but yes, I assume you are
> >>> > misunderstanding my
> >>> > question. In the video, he didn't translate to machine code, he
> >>> > translated
> >>> > to javascript which he then interpreted (at least that is how I
> >>> > understand
> >>> > it). Also, I am also pretty confident that Haskell doesn't map
> straight
> >>> > into
> >>> > machine code, I think it must embed a runtime to manage things like
> >>> > thunks
> >>> > and garbage collection.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> And how is translating to JavaScript different from translating to
> >>> machine code?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Michal
> >>
> >> First of all, can JS even generate and execute machine code? I'd expect
> >> that to require knowledge of the platform and to be handled within the
> >> interpreter, not at the language level. IDK, I'll assume we mean
> assembly
> >> code for the rest of the post.
> >>
> >> Assembly (x86, anyway, IDK anything at all about any other kinds) is
> based
> >> on a certain infrastructure such as a stack, a heap, registers that keep
> >> track of where you are at in your code, where you are at on the stack,
> and
> >> so forth (I'm not positive these registers *must* be used this way, but
> at
> >> least that is how I've always seen them used). AFAIK, JS doesn't have
> these
> >> inherently. You could construct a framework that mimics a computer, and
> then
>
> Presumably OMeta is as complete as x86 assembly. Quite likely it has
> different set of primitives (or insctructions) but that does not mean
> translating to it is any more challenging than to x86 assembly to
> which all the named languages were translated already.
>
>
Ruby isn't translated to Assembly, you must interpret it.


> >> recreate the assembly instruction set but :
> >>
> >> (a) that isn't what he did in the video
> >>
> >> (b) if your language requires a runtime, then it isn't translatable.
> Maybe
> >> you could embed the runtime into the output program, but does it count
> as a
> >> translation if you break 1:1 relationship between before and after code?
> >> Even compiled languages don't do this, joining libraries is done by the
> >> linker, after the code is translated. (I'm not clear on the difference
> >> between assemblers and compilers)
> >>
> >> (c) by mapping into JS, don't you lose all the qualities that the
> language
> >> has on its own? ie you have the weaknesses of your actual language on
> top of
> >> the languages of JS (ie I would expect C to be slower than JS now,
> because
> >> your C is being translated into what appears to be assembly
> instructions,
> >> but is actually JS, and your final code is actually a whole series of
> >> indirect JS commands) So if this is the case, you have a leaky
> abstraction
> >> (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/LeakyAbstractions.html)
>
> I don't see the leak anywhere, nor do I see any reason to translate C to
> JS.
>
>
The hypothesis was that you could implement *any* language. C falls within
that set. The leak is that JavaScript does not have the properties of
assembly. There is a reason you don't write systems level code with
interpreted languages, because they have very different properties. Wouldn't
implementing a systems level language in an interpreted language cause the
systems level language to lose the attributes that make it a viable choice
for such a domain?

>>
> >>
> >> Anyway, if you read my post, you'll see I didn't assert that it can't be
> >> done, I just asked whether it could. If you think it can and it's
> obvious,
> >> then how about an explanation of the process. If not, then why do you
> keep
> >> asking me these questions? I'm not an expert on the domain, I just
> watched
> >> the video.
> >
> > Also, why are we off list?
> >
> Because some three emails back you sent the email only to me, not the list.
>
>
Hmm, seems to be because you CC'd me in your response to the ML, so when I
hit reply, gmail sent it to you instead of the list. I changed the recipient
of this one, hopefully we're back on list. You might change your client to
avoid that, it seems unlikely that I'll be the only one to do this.

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