[#379166] question: threads behaviour — Raphael Bauduin <rblists@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2011/03/01

[#379190] exec using sh -c or directly running the command, depending on the system — Xavier No謖le <xavier.noelle@...>

Hello !

8 messages 2011/03/01

[#379261] How can i get the first letter of this string — duc nguyen <minhduct4@...>

Hello, i'm a newbie. I have a question that how can i get the first

10 messages 2011/03/03

[#379285] Extracting the shortest string from an array — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, given the following array:

12 messages 2011/03/03

[#379299] How to assign an element to a hash only if its value is not nil? — "Thomas W." <thomas@...>

hash = {}

13 messages 2011/03/03

[#379327] extconf.rb spitting out SH Makefile on windows? — Mr Eiland <mreiland1978@...>

Title says it all, I'm running ruby extconf.rb in a visual studio 2008

18 messages 2011/03/03
[#379883] Re: extconf.rb spitting out SH Makefile on windows? — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...> 2011/03/15

On Mar 15, 3:09=A0am, Mr Eiland <mreiland1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#379410] Ruby - Missed some core computer science world ? — Lucky Dev <lucky.developer@...>

I am doing ruby programming and been developing rails3 apps for some

16 messages 2011/03/06

[#379423] How to get class of BasicObject ancestor (Ruby 1.9.2)? — Alexey Petrushin <axyd80@...>

There's no :class method on BasicObject, is there any way to get class

9 messages 2011/03/06

[#379430] (ArgumentError) - in `initialize': wrong number of arguments (4 for 0) — Micah Wolfe <52w7te9ara@...>

Greetings all,

12 messages 2011/03/06

[#379469] basic programming question, help please — Kaye Ng <sbstn26@...>

class Square

17 messages 2011/03/07
[#379471] Re: basic programming question, help please — Mayank Kohaley <mayank.kohaley@...> 2011/03/07

The class method in Ruby is represented using self.<method name> or <class

[#379487] http post and authorization header for twitter — boo boo <s.w.timko@...>

I am trying to send an authorization header to the twitter api

16 messages 2011/03/07

[#379524] Duplicate methods removal in Ruby's TODO ? — David Unric <dunric29a@...>

Hi,

15 messages 2011/03/08

[#379597] Comparison between C++ and Ruby Variables — "Mayank K." <mayank.kohaley@...>

I have blogged about the comparison between c++ and ruby variables and

10 messages 2011/03/09

[#379686] What do you use with Ruby for GUI programming and why? — Robert <sigzero@...>

Is there a push to one toolkit or the other?

29 messages 2011/03/11
[#379713] Re: What do you use with Ruby for GUI programming and why? — Steve Klabnik <steve@...> 2011/03/11

I use Shoes. I'm biased; I'm one of the maintainers.

[#379715] Re: What do you use with Ruby for GUI programming and why? — Shadowfirebird <shadowfirebird@...> 2011/03/11

> I use Shoes. I'm biased; I'm one of the maintainers.

[#379755] send() with a block? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...>

Why don't the ruby docs say that send() can take a block?

23 messages 2011/03/12
[#379756] Re: send() with a block? — "Sean O'Halpin" <sean.ohalpin@...> 2011/03/12

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 8:45 PM, 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#379757] Re: send() with a block? — Peter Zotov <whitequark@...> 2011/03/12

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 06:01:31 +0900, Sean O'Halpin wrote:

[#379845] Ruby jobs — Toby Gambill <toby.gambill@...>

All=20

25 messages 2011/03/14

[#379846] Understanding YAML and this practice in general — Fily Salas <fs_tigre@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2011/03/15

[#379889] SHA1 Decryption!! — Gormare Kalss <gormare@...>

Hello! I hope that no one will be offended by this question!! Ive been

12 messages 2011/03/15

[#379945] TCPSocket: how to realize that the other endpoint has closed the connection? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, I open a TCP connection with a server:

10 messages 2011/03/16

[#379998] Inserting hash value slows down as table gets larger — Philip Rhoades <phil@...>

People,

11 messages 2011/03/17

[#380037] matching a word in any number of characters — Chad Perrin <code@...>

I have need of some code to match any of a number of words in any number

12 messages 2011/03/18

[#380074] Method Call from inside a file. — Tridib Bandopadhyay <tridib04@...>

I coded a new method within gc.c file defining as--

11 messages 2011/03/19

[#380085] A question about Ruby 1.9's "external encoding" — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...>

I have the following program:

11 messages 2011/03/20

[#380116] The best practices to learn Ruby — Fily Salas <fs_tigre@...>

Hi,

22 messages 2011/03/20

[#380205] How could I make the Ruby 1.9 string ignore the invalid utf-8 byte sequence in split? — Stanley Xu <wenhao.xu@...>

Dear buddies,

8 messages 2011/03/22

[#380220] Ruby corrupts after a period of time — Chip Burke <cburke@...>

I have recently upgraded from Ruby 1.8.7 to 1.9.2p180 on Fedora. After a

19 messages 2011/03/22

[#380262] Converting PHP to Ruby — "Jack W." <jack.whitman403@...>

Hi all,

13 messages 2011/03/23

[#380306] shortcut for add unless nil ? — Iain Barnett <iainspeed@...>

Hi,

24 messages 2011/03/24
[#380308] Re: shortcut for add unless nil ? — Xavier Noria <fxn@...> 2011/03/24

You could do something like this (untested):

[#380339] Re: shortcut for add unless nil ? — Iain Barnett <iainspeed@...> 2011/03/25

[#380347] Re: shortcut for add unless nil ? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/03/25

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Iain Barnett <iainspeed@gmail.com> wrote:

[#380369] Re: shortcut for add unless nil ? — Colin Bartlett <colinb2r@...> 2011/03/25

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Robert Klemme

[#380382] Re: shortcut for add unless nil ? — Iain Barnett <iainspeed@...> 2011/03/25

[#380385] Re: shortcut for add unless nil ? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/03/25

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Iain Barnett <iainspeed@gmail.com> wrote:

[#380389] Re: shortcut for add unless nil ? — Iain Barnett <iainspeed@...> 2011/03/25

[#380394] Re: shortcut for add unless nil ? — serialhex <serialhex@...> 2011/03/25

...personally i think it would be nice to be able to define new operators

[#380325] Regexp, matching only the content within parentheses — Emil Kampp <ekampp@...>

Hi.

12 messages 2011/03/24

[#380359] How to get the value of a singleton class? — Joey Zhou <yimutang@...>

Here is a sample code:

14 messages 2011/03/25
[#380360] Re: How to get the value of a singleton class? — Robert Dober <robert.dober@...> 2011/03/25

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Joey Zhou <yimutang@gmail.com> wrote:

[#380361] Do I need to upgrade to the latest version of Ruby — Fily Salas <fs_tigre@...>

Hi,

10 messages 2011/03/25

[#380368] Dynamic classes — PsiPro <arjesins@...>

So I am working on some metaprograming and have some questions about

13 messages 2011/03/25

[#380401] How to "find" new lines — Damir Sigur <damir@...>

I am new to ruby, and was trying to make a small code which would check

12 messages 2011/03/25

[#380520] A two-minute Ruby flavoured survey to help shape a new service. — "Mic P." <micpringle@...>

Please take a few seconds to fill out the following survey ...

12 messages 2011/03/28
[#380528] Re: A two-minute Ruby flavoured survey to help shape a new service. — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/03/28

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 03:46:17AM +0900, Mic P. wrote:

[#380558] Why can a floating point number be used as an array index? — Jeff Dik <s450r1@...>

Why can a floating point number be used as an array index? Anybody

11 messages 2011/03/29

[#380573] Encoding issues when parsing HTML in 1.9 — ctdev <ctdev421@...>

Hi, I'm having some encoding problems while parsing HTML with Nokogiri

12 messages 2011/03/30

[#380586] functional paradigm taking over — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...>

Hi,

133 messages 2011/03/30
[#380593] Lambda Shambda — Mike Stephens <rubfor@...> 2011/03/30

Although a Ruby fan, I must say I'm spending all my time looking at

[#380612] Re: Lambda Shambda — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/03/30

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 06:38:19PM +0900, Mike Stephens wrote:

[#380617] Re: Lambda Shambda — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/03/30

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Chad Perrin <code@apotheon.net> wrote:

[#380641] Re: Lambda Shambda — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/03/30

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:19:25AM +0900, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#380664] Re: Lambda Shambda — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/03/31

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Chad Perrin <code@apotheon.net> wrote:

[#380669] Re: Lambda Shambda — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/03/31

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:30:07PM +0900, Phillip Gawlowski wrote:

[#380683] Re: Lambda Shambda — Mike Stephens <rubfor@...> 2011/03/31

Chad Perrin wrote in post #990130:

[#380812] Re: Lambda Shambda — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/04/02

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Mike Stephens <rubfor@recitel.net> wrote:

[#380825] Re: Lambda Shambda — Mike Stephens <rubfor@...> 2011/04/03

Josh Cheek wrote in post #990579:

[#380831] Re: Lambda Shambda — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/04/03

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Mike Stephens <rubfor@recitel.net> wrote:

[#380839] Re: Lambda Shambda — Everett L Williams II <rett@...> 2011/04/03

*Let's not pay too much attention to the code snobs on here. I've yet to

[#380840] Re: Lambda Shambda — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/04/03

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Everett L Williams II

[#380893] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Mike Stephens <rubfor@...> 2011/04/04

This thread has been touching upon three issues - functional languages

[#380907] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Everett L Williams II <rett@...> 2011/04/04

*Mike,*

[#380910] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Johnny Morrice <spoon@...> 2011/04/04

> But, as I have said, I have seen some absolutely

[#380913] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Johnny Morrice <spoon@...> 2011/04/04

> I've seen some absolutely amazing things done with befunge! Networked

[#380925] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/04/04

On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 09:29:13PM +0900, Johnny Morrice wrote:

[#380926] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Johnny Morrice <spoon@...> 2011/04/04

> I have not seen "befunge" as a euphemism for brainfuck before. Is

[#380933] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/04/04

On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 12:42:20AM +0900, Johnny Morrice wrote:

[#381261] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Robert Dober <robert.dober@...> 2011/04/10

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Chad Perrin <code@apotheon.net> wrote:

[#381324] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Kevin <darkintent@...> 2011/04/12

Aren't all programs languages as the program describes a particular problem

[#381330] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/04/12

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Kevin <darkintent@gmail.com> wrote:

[#381331] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Kevin <darkintent@...> 2011/04/12

No I'm not confusing them, all programs provide the vocabulary (Means of

[#381356] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2011/04/12

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 04:47:17PM +0900, Kevin wrote:

[#381400] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Kevin <darkintent@...> 2011/04/13

Why don't you actually go take a look at the definition of language,

[#381401] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/04/13

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Kevin <darkintent@gmail.com> wrote:

[#381403] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Kevin <darkintent@...> 2011/04/13

That is all well and good. But does that fact make the definitions I am

[#381408] Re: functional paradigm taking over — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/04/13

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Kevin <darkintent@gmail.com> wrote:

[#380623] string/array slices — Patrick Tyler <patrick.a.tyler@...>

Hello,

15 messages 2011/03/30

[#380689] how to refine the code to avoid using fork on windows? — Ethan Huo <firewall888@...>

here is the thing, i need to move a previous ruby program from Linux to

9 messages 2011/03/31

[#380710] Simple array.each do |x| question — "Kyle X." <haebooty@...>

Hello, I am new to ruby and cannot understand why this code is not

18 messages 2011/03/31
[#380711] Re: Simple array.each do |x| question — Roger Braun <roger@...> 2011/03/31

Hi

Re: extconf.rb spitting out SH Makefile on windows?

From: Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...>
Date: 2011-03-17 19:46:23 UTC
List: ruby-talk #380023
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Mr Eiland <mreiland1978@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> mingw is not bundled with either Ruby Windows installer, or the rubygems
> installer, making your entire point moot. =A0In order to build an
> extension
> via ruby gems, you have to:
>
> 1. install ruby
> 2. install ruby gems
> 3. install rubydevkit
> 4. execute a .bat or .ps1 file every single time you want to install or
> update a gem that needs to be compiled.

Step for is unnecessary, as has been pointed out.

> So don't give me this bullshit about MS not allowing you to bundle 3rd
> party software, they don't bundle gcc either.

The Ruby DevKit *does* bundle a full compiler toolchain, not just what
is required to have a compiler run (which would be ruby.h, and that'd
be it, more or less).

The DevKit download, however, cannot, and will not, include Visual C++
Express, since the EULA forbids redistribution by third parties. So,
it's not possible to bundle VS in any way, shape, or form, and thus
the community need for an NMake-compatible toolchain is pretty low.


>
> That's a nice story, but you missed the part where I explicitly stated I
> had moved everything over to the mingw toolchain, so take your strawmen
> and stuff them up your ass.

I refer you to your OP, where you said that Ruby's extconf.rb doesn't
generate NMake compatible makefiles.

Everything else follows from that. Including your outbursts.

> I'm not using Ruby for Windows development because the windows support
> is shit, not because I have to use the mingw toolchain. =A0That's a
> symptom, the problem is the community thinking it's acceptable to
> pretend Windows is Unix. =A0Jackasses and fools on both sides of that
> argument. =A0The jackasses who want to stay in unix land, even in windows=
,
> and the fools who think windows is the only OS out there.

That's why the RubyInstaller project created the DevKit. It makes, for
all intents and purposes, the MinGW tools invisible to the average
Ruby user. They are only noticeable if a gem blows up during
compilation. Which is neither Ruby's nor Windows' fault, nor the fault
of MinGW.

BTW: Notice that Ruby mingw32 lacks any dependency on cygwin.dll. It's
a fully native Ruby binary, not using any sort of compatibility layers
to map *NIX system calls to Windows equivalents.

> Next time, just acknowledge the point and state no one has any interest
> in fixing it instead of launching into the OSS party line.

Fact is: OSS is volunteer driven.
Fact is: OSS is "scratch your own itch" driven.
Fact is: *you* want NMake compatible makefiles.
Fact is: Unless you either do the patch yourself, or offer incentives
for somebody else to provide a patch, you don't get to complain. You
can file a bug, but otherwise you are left to the community's fancy
and what is seen as a necessary feature (First: Get better Windows
compatibility with Ruby).

> =A0You'll stop misinterpreting statements of intention as threats.

Your tone is leaving very little to the imagination.

That you aren't offering anything beyond "Ruby on Windows is shit",
and "OSs party line", among curses, pushes you towards the "troll" end
of things.

Offer some suggestions or, better yet, patches to fix what you
perceive as issues, and we are talking. But unless your bug reports
become more verbose than "Windows support by Ruby is shit", nothing
will be done.

--=20
Phillip Gawlowski

Though the folk I have met,
(Ah, how soon!) they forget
When I've moved on to some other place,
There may be one or two,
When I've played and passed through,
Who'll remember my song or my face.

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