From: Toby Gambill Date: 2011-03-16T01:20:46+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby jobs --_000_97F6FA471BF3C14E9A14EC45D05D99CD21F72E8298STRATUSMBX01T_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter I really appreciate the honest response from all of you on this matter, let= me say this I am not fishing for resumes because that takes up a lot of wa= sted time on both parties, I did say in an earlier response the following 2 positions in Tennessee 1) junior developer (1) Senior Developer (10) positions in NYC for both Junior and Senior Developers Pay will be based on Experience Social Media development company Toby.Gambill@api-recruiting.com 3806 Amnicola Highway Chattanooga, TN 37406 423-702-7115 - Office direct 423-912-8188 - Cell 423-643-8030 - Fax www.api-recruiting.com http://www.api-recruiting.com/ Check out our job postings on Facebook Mission: To maximize the growth of the Kingdom, by helping the least of the= se, through strategic giving from profitable businesses. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Hickman [mailto:peterhickman386@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:47 AM To: ruby-talk ML Subject: Re: Ruby jobs The problem you are up against is that recruiters are seen as dishonest scum and so you have to be upfront and clear as to what you are offering. Saying that you have a job but are unable to say where in the world this job is, what the salary is in the region of, what the industry the job is in or what skills are needed seems like you are basically on a fishing trip for CVs rather than having actual vacancies to fill. You talk of your clients but at the same time talk about potential applicants going directly to the client. If you were working with the client they wouldn't accept applicants who came to them directly, that is what they use a recruiter for, if they do then they are not actually your clients. Remember the responses you are getting here is because your post sucked and by implication you and the company you represent. A little more professionalism would not go amiss, first impressions and all that. --_000_97F6FA471BF3C14E9A14EC45D05D99CD21F72E8298STRATUSMBX01T_--