From: Intransition Date: 2010-06-24T22:21:37+09:00 Subject: Re: Namespacing a class On Jun 24, 6:48 am, Robert Klemme wrote: > I believe the more important point is that - although classes and > modules have only few differences (inheritance, instance creation) - > they are deliberately kept separate because they are language > artifacts intended to model different concepts (entities vs. > behavior).  Even if it is technically possible to mix in classes the > same way as modules (and I believe Jörg's assessment is correct here) > it probably does not make much sense to allow this from a conceptual > point of view. I disagree. This sort of explanation has no material bases --how does the conceptual distinction help us? I think it hurts us for a few reasons. 1) It disrupts auto-creation of namespaces. E.g. class Y::X end What is Y, a class or module? Because of the distinction between class and module you have to pre-define it. This futher leads to "bottom requiring" --using require at the bottom of scripts instead of at the top. 2) The developer is forced to choose between two arbitrarily limited mechanisms for modeling behavior. Classes can only re-used once per subclass and not at all via modules. Modules can be reused extensively but do not naturally include their singleton methods. These limitations lead to a number of code smells from overly limited use of inheritance to included/ClassMethods hooks. 3) Using tools for conceptually different cases does not require that their be physically different tools for each case. I wrench is just as good for tightening a nut as it is for loosening one. If I had to use two separate tools it would be quite annoying. Following your conceptual distinction argument we could just as easily argue for separate entities for mixins and namespaces since those are also different uses of modules. Clearly no one wants that. I have never heard of a solid reason for the division between classes and modules --my guess is that there is no real reason other than that it how it was done originally, and changing it now means 1) a major version bump and 2) an overhaul of the implementation.