[#363639] Parsing geonames — 12 34 <rubyforum@...>

A Ruby newbie having trouble getting results back from geonames

16 messages 2010/06/02
[#363641] Re: Parsing geonames — Michael Fellinger <m.fellinger@...> 2010/06/02

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:57 PM, 12 34 <rubyforum@web.knobby.ws> wrote:

[#363642] Re: Parsing geonames — 12 34 <rubyforum@...> 2010/06/02

Michael Fellinger wrote:

[#363646] installation issue with Ruby gems on Ubuntu 8.04 — Santosh Dvn <santoshdvn@...>

Hi I am installing ruby gems on ubuntu 8.04 .. while installing i got

14 messages 2010/06/02

[#363662] having a class method called only one time ? — unbewusst.sein@... (Une B騅ue)

I'd like having a class method called only one time ?

12 messages 2010/06/02

[#363756] comparing objects — Anderson Leite <andersonlfl@...>

How can I compare two objects and get true if some of his atributes are

48 messages 2010/06/03
[#364122] Re: comparing objects — Rein Henrichs <reinh@...> 2010/06/10

On 2010-06-10 06:59:40 -0700, Robert Dober said:

[#363764] Documenting Ruby 1.9: Ebook or Wiki? — Run Paint Run Run <runrun@...>

I'm writing a free ebook about Ruby 1.9 at http://ruby.runpaint.org/ .

17 messages 2010/06/04
[#363765] Re: Documenting Ruby 1.9: Ebook or Wiki? — Mohit Sindhwani <mo_mail@...> 2010/06/04

On 4/6/2010 11:30 AM, Run Paint Run Run wrote:

[#363775] Looking for ORM for 'legacy' database. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...>

I feel I should start with some pre-emptive apologies. I used to =

28 messages 2010/06/04
[#363895] Re: Looking for ORM for 'legacy' database. — Phrogz <phrogz@...> 2010/06/06

On Jun 4, 3:29=A0am, Dave Howell <groups.20...@grandfenwick.net> wrote:

[#363975] Re: Looking for ORM for 'legacy' database. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...> 2010/06/07

[#363883] inject method of Array class — RichardSchollar <richardgschollar@...>

I have only just started using Ruby (and am a total noob, in case this

14 messages 2010/06/06

[#363944] Complex numbers contradiction? — Andrew Duncan <andrew.duncan@...>

This looks correct:

13 messages 2010/06/07
[#363951] Re: Complex numbers contradiction? — Robert Dober <robert.dober@...> 2010/06/07

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Andrew Duncan <andrew.duncan@sonos.com> wrote:

[#364010] Rubyzip - `dup': can't dup NilClass (TypeError) — Luka Stolyarov <lukich@...>

Hello. I've trying to figure out rubyzip. Here's the code I had:

11 messages 2010/06/08

[#364101] Why private #binding? — Intransition <transfire@...>

Why is #binding a private method? I end up doing a lot of this:

13 messages 2010/06/10

[#364268] State of the union for Ruby CLI libraries? — John Feminella <johnf@...>

I am starting construction on a somewhat complicated internal

18 messages 2010/06/13

[#364273] Loading a module without polluting my namespace — Hagbard Celine <sin3141592@...>

Hey folks!

20 messages 2010/06/13

[#364330] shorthand — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>

I read this once:

14 messages 2010/06/14

[#364342] Placement of require() and missing symbols — Eric MSP Veith <eveith@...>

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16 messages 2010/06/15
[#364365] Re: Placement of require() and missing symbols — Kirk Haines <wyhaines@...> 2010/06/15

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Eric MSP Veith

[#364371] datamapper blues — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

I'm investigating the use of DataMapper to convert an old project with

14 messages 2010/06/15

[#364402] Getting rid of self — Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@...32.com>

22 messages 2010/06/16
[#364440] Re: Getting rid of self — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/06/16

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:31 AM, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@dos32.com> wrote:

[#364415] Android apps using ruby — Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan <lakshmanan@...>

Hi,

16 messages 2010/06/16
[#364439] Re: Android apps using ruby — Andrew Kaspick <akaspick@...> 2010/06/16

Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan wrote:

[#364479] Re: Android apps using ruby — Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan <lakshmanan@...> 2010/06/17

Andrew Kaspick wrote:

[#364496] nothing new in ruby_core for four days ? — Michel Demazure <michel@...>

The Ruby Core forum has no new entry since four days ago.

15 messages 2010/06/17
[#364498] Re: nothing new in ruby_core for four days ? — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/06/17

Michel Demazure wrote:

[#364529] Dear gem: still no zlib. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...>

I really really regret ever installing SnowLeopard.=20

16 messages 2010/06/17

[#364580] String comparison. Why does Ruby consider this true? — Abder-rahman Ali <abder.rahman.ali@...>

When I try for example to compare the following strings in Ruby, I get

13 messages 2010/06/18
[#364584] Re: String comparison. Why does Ruby consider this true? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/06/18

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Abder-rahman Ali <

[#364628] Random Points within a Circle (#234) — Daniel Moore <yahivin@...>

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21 messages 2010/06/19
[#364696] Re: [QUIZ] Random Points within a Circle (#234) — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/06/21

On 6/19/10, Daniel Moore <yahivin@gmail.com> wrote:

[#364641] Namespacing a class — Eric MSP Veith <eveith@...>

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18 messages 2010/06/20

[#364815] Count substrings in string, scan too slow — Danny Challis <dannychallis@...>

Hello everyone,

18 messages 2010/06/24
[#364817] Re: Count substrings in string, scan too slow — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/06/24

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Danny Challis <dannychallis@gmail.com> wro=

[#364825] Re: Count substrings in string, scan too slow — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/06/24

2010/6/24 Jes=FAs Gabriel y Gal=E1n <jgabrielygalan@gmail.com>:

[#364850] Happy Intransition Day! — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

Happy Intransition Day!

23 messages 2010/06/24

[#364930] Ruby in JavaScript, all projects are dead? — Alexey Petrushin <axyd80@...>

Hello, recently I've examined some of the projects that trying to bring

18 messages 2010/06/27

[#364988] Reading String Data as a File — Doug Jolley <ddjolley@...>

I use Net::HTTP to collect some data as a string. I now need to pass

25 messages 2010/06/29
[#364989] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/06/29

[#364996] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/06/29

Ryan Davis wrote:

[#365016] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Doug Jolley <ddjolley@...> 2010/06/29

> If it takes only a pathname argument, then you're

[#365024] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/06/29

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Doug Jolley <ddjolley@gmail.com> wrote:

[#365036] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/06/30

2010/6/29 Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@medioh.com>:

[#365049] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/06/30

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#365039] pathname.rb:270: warning: `*' interpreted as argument prefix — "R.. Kumar 1.9.1 OSX" <sentinel1879@...>

/opt/local/lib/ruby1.9/1.9.1/pathname.rb:270: warning: `*' interpreted

12 messages 2010/06/30
[#365048] Re: pathname.rb:270: warning: `*' interpreted as argument prefix — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/06/30

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:11 AM, R.. Kumar 1.9.1 OSX <sentinel1879@gmail.com

Re: Do I overuse class methods?

From: Rein Henrichs <reinh@...>
Date: 2010-06-16 22:00:05 UTC
List: ruby-talk #364464
On 2010-06-16 11:48:32 -0700, Michał Zając said:

> W dniu 2010-06-15 01:06, Rein Henrichs pisze:
> 
> Let me put it this way: replace all of your
>> pseudo-classes (these classes that don't instantiate and are used as
>> singleton method holders) with this:
>> 
>> YourClass = Object.new
>> 
>> def YourClass.some_method
>> ... do stuff ...
>> end
>> 
>> ... more ...
>> 
>> This is functionally equivalent. Does this look like good Ruby code? Is
>> this good OO design? If not, why not? The classes you're asking about
>> aren't (functionally) classes at all: they're just objects like this
>> one. You should object to them for the same reasons that you (may)
>> object to the above.
> 
> I can't agree that using such classes is _always_ bad design. In well 
> designed systems there is a place for stateless classes too (of course 
> they are in minority). They main responsibility is not to encapsulate 
> data but encapsulate dependencies - for example AbstractSmtpClient 
> which encapsulates (wrapes) concrete SMTP client implementation. In 
> Java this kind of encapsulation is needed to unit test classes those 
> use SMTP communication. But what is more important to me is 
> responsibility separation (SRP) - actual business code doesn't have to 
> create and configure SMTP client - it just gets ready for use 
> AbstractSmtpClient object from outside (not necessary from heavy weight 
> DI framework).
> 
> Back to your question - maybe it is _functionally_ equivalent of 
> defining methods inline one by one but it is not eqivalent in terms of 
> code readability (in my "psuedo-classes" I separated code that you have 
> mixed in one class) in this way we can treat every program (even 
> written in ruby) as "functionally equivalent" of assembler or I have 
> misunderstood your example :D
> 
>> 
>> Also, Ruby has far better mechanisms than dependency injection. So much
>> so, in fact, that Rails core member and creator of two different Ruby
>> dep. injection libraries, Jamis Buck, recently gave a great talk about
>> why you don't need dependency injection in Ruby. Summary is here, and is
>> a good read if you're coming from heavy, "enterprisey" languages like
>> Java: http://weblog.jamisbuck.org/2008/11/9/legos-play-doh-and-programming.
> 
> I never treat DI and automatic DI frameworks as the same thing - and I 
> repeat it to every programmer I am working with :) Due to better 
> language mechanisms (open classes) in ruby we can make dependency 
> injection as described in article. What I like less is mixing business 
> code and collaborators construction (new calls) in one physical code 
> unit.

I would prefer that you use modules for "stateless classes" that you 
don't initialize. Modules are semantically for use in both "mixins" and 
namespacing, and the namespacing here is an appropriate use. They also 
don't share the semantic baggage that classes do (initialization) for 
this use.
-- 
Rein Henrichs
http://puppetlabs.com
http://reinh.com


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