[#363639] Parsing geonames — 12 34 <rubyforum@...>

A Ruby newbie having trouble getting results back from geonames

16 messages 2010/06/02
[#363641] Re: Parsing geonames — Michael Fellinger <m.fellinger@...> 2010/06/02

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:57 PM, 12 34 <rubyforum@web.knobby.ws> wrote:

[#363642] Re: Parsing geonames — 12 34 <rubyforum@...> 2010/06/02

Michael Fellinger wrote:

[#363646] installation issue with Ruby gems on Ubuntu 8.04 — Santosh Dvn <santoshdvn@...>

Hi I am installing ruby gems on ubuntu 8.04 .. while installing i got

14 messages 2010/06/02

[#363662] having a class method called only one time ? — unbewusst.sein@... (Une B騅ue)

I'd like having a class method called only one time ?

12 messages 2010/06/02

[#363756] comparing objects — Anderson Leite <andersonlfl@...>

How can I compare two objects and get true if some of his atributes are

48 messages 2010/06/03
[#364122] Re: comparing objects — Rein Henrichs <reinh@...> 2010/06/10

On 2010-06-10 06:59:40 -0700, Robert Dober said:

[#363764] Documenting Ruby 1.9: Ebook or Wiki? — Run Paint Run Run <runrun@...>

I'm writing a free ebook about Ruby 1.9 at http://ruby.runpaint.org/ .

17 messages 2010/06/04
[#363765] Re: Documenting Ruby 1.9: Ebook or Wiki? — Mohit Sindhwani <mo_mail@...> 2010/06/04

On 4/6/2010 11:30 AM, Run Paint Run Run wrote:

[#363775] Looking for ORM for 'legacy' database. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...>

I feel I should start with some pre-emptive apologies. I used to =

28 messages 2010/06/04
[#363895] Re: Looking for ORM for 'legacy' database. — Phrogz <phrogz@...> 2010/06/06

On Jun 4, 3:29=A0am, Dave Howell <groups.20...@grandfenwick.net> wrote:

[#363975] Re: Looking for ORM for 'legacy' database. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...> 2010/06/07

[#363883] inject method of Array class — RichardSchollar <richardgschollar@...>

I have only just started using Ruby (and am a total noob, in case this

14 messages 2010/06/06

[#363944] Complex numbers contradiction? — Andrew Duncan <andrew.duncan@...>

This looks correct:

13 messages 2010/06/07
[#363951] Re: Complex numbers contradiction? — Robert Dober <robert.dober@...> 2010/06/07

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Andrew Duncan <andrew.duncan@sonos.com> wrote:

[#364010] Rubyzip - `dup': can't dup NilClass (TypeError) — Luka Stolyarov <lukich@...>

Hello. I've trying to figure out rubyzip. Here's the code I had:

11 messages 2010/06/08

[#364101] Why private #binding? — Intransition <transfire@...>

Why is #binding a private method? I end up doing a lot of this:

13 messages 2010/06/10

[#364268] State of the union for Ruby CLI libraries? — John Feminella <johnf@...>

I am starting construction on a somewhat complicated internal

18 messages 2010/06/13

[#364273] Loading a module without polluting my namespace — Hagbard Celine <sin3141592@...>

Hey folks!

20 messages 2010/06/13

[#364330] shorthand — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>

I read this once:

14 messages 2010/06/14

[#364342] Placement of require() and missing symbols — Eric MSP Veith <eveith@...>

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16 messages 2010/06/15
[#364365] Re: Placement of require() and missing symbols — Kirk Haines <wyhaines@...> 2010/06/15

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Eric MSP Veith

[#364371] datamapper blues — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

I'm investigating the use of DataMapper to convert an old project with

14 messages 2010/06/15

[#364402] Getting rid of self — Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@...32.com>

22 messages 2010/06/16
[#364440] Re: Getting rid of self — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/06/16

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:31 AM, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@dos32.com> wrote:

[#364415] Android apps using ruby — Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan <lakshmanan@...>

Hi,

16 messages 2010/06/16
[#364439] Re: Android apps using ruby — Andrew Kaspick <akaspick@...> 2010/06/16

Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan wrote:

[#364479] Re: Android apps using ruby — Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan <lakshmanan@...> 2010/06/17

Andrew Kaspick wrote:

[#364496] nothing new in ruby_core for four days ? — Michel Demazure <michel@...>

The Ruby Core forum has no new entry since four days ago.

15 messages 2010/06/17
[#364498] Re: nothing new in ruby_core for four days ? — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/06/17

Michel Demazure wrote:

[#364529] Dear gem: still no zlib. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...>

I really really regret ever installing SnowLeopard.=20

16 messages 2010/06/17

[#364580] String comparison. Why does Ruby consider this true? — Abder-rahman Ali <abder.rahman.ali@...>

When I try for example to compare the following strings in Ruby, I get

13 messages 2010/06/18
[#364584] Re: String comparison. Why does Ruby consider this true? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/06/18

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Abder-rahman Ali <

[#364628] Random Points within a Circle (#234) — Daniel Moore <yahivin@...>

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21 messages 2010/06/19
[#364696] Re: [QUIZ] Random Points within a Circle (#234) — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/06/21

On 6/19/10, Daniel Moore <yahivin@gmail.com> wrote:

[#364641] Namespacing a class — Eric MSP Veith <eveith@...>

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18 messages 2010/06/20

[#364815] Count substrings in string, scan too slow — Danny Challis <dannychallis@...>

Hello everyone,

18 messages 2010/06/24
[#364817] Re: Count substrings in string, scan too slow — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/06/24

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Danny Challis <dannychallis@gmail.com> wro=

[#364825] Re: Count substrings in string, scan too slow — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/06/24

2010/6/24 Jes=FAs Gabriel y Gal=E1n <jgabrielygalan@gmail.com>:

[#364850] Happy Intransition Day! — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

Happy Intransition Day!

23 messages 2010/06/24

[#364930] Ruby in JavaScript, all projects are dead? — Alexey Petrushin <axyd80@...>

Hello, recently I've examined some of the projects that trying to bring

18 messages 2010/06/27

[#364988] Reading String Data as a File — Doug Jolley <ddjolley@...>

I use Net::HTTP to collect some data as a string. I now need to pass

25 messages 2010/06/29
[#364989] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/06/29

[#364996] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/06/29

Ryan Davis wrote:

[#365016] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Doug Jolley <ddjolley@...> 2010/06/29

> If it takes only a pathname argument, then you're

[#365024] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/06/29

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Doug Jolley <ddjolley@gmail.com> wrote:

[#365036] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/06/30

2010/6/29 Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@medioh.com>:

[#365049] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/06/30

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#365039] pathname.rb:270: warning: `*' interpreted as argument prefix — "R.. Kumar 1.9.1 OSX" <sentinel1879@...>

/opt/local/lib/ruby1.9/1.9.1/pathname.rb:270: warning: `*' interpreted

12 messages 2010/06/30
[#365048] Re: pathname.rb:270: warning: `*' interpreted as argument prefix — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/06/30

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:11 AM, R.. Kumar 1.9.1 OSX <sentinel1879@gmail.com

Re: State of the union for Ruby CLI libraries?

From: Rein Henrichs <reinh@...>
Date: 2010-06-14 02:50:05 UTC
List: ruby-talk #364292
On 2010-06-13 09:07:31 -0700, John Feminella said:

> I am starting construction on a somewhat complicated internal
> application whose primary interface will be the command line. In the
> past, for similar projects, I've just used OptionParser, but I think I
> need something a little beefier. Specifically, I think I need these
> features:
> 
> * colorized output
> * sensible option parsing
> * sensible enumeration of options for help output
> * support for `git`-like subcommands, e.g., `app create`, `app
> delete`, etc., that can be intuitively and cleanly mapped to methods
> * ability to be insensitive to option ordering, e.g. `app create --foo
> quux --bar` should be semantically identical to `app create --bar
> --foo quux`
> 
> Does that sort of thing exist? I've noticed there are some apparently
> more powerful alternatives like Thor, which is more of a full-stack
> scripting framework, and I'm wondering what else might be useful to
> take a look at.
> 
> Any and all suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks!

After recently reviewing the state of the art for Ruby CLI tools myself 
as we moved Puppet to a sub-command-based executable structure, I 
couldn't find a single, cohesive library that provides all of these 
features. The domain is a full of NIH and wheel reinvention. There also 
doesn't seem to be much thought given to combining multiple tools in a 
unix-like fashion (small tools chained together to provide more 
complete functionality). They all seem to want to do a bit of 
everything but not enough of anything.

OptionParser is convenient because it's available in the standard 
library. There are a number of other option parsing tools but they 
(imo) don't provide significant benefit to offset the cost of an 
additional dependency.

As far as subcommands go, there is rake (which can be used as a 
stand-alone application DSL), thor (by Yehuda Katz), main (by Ara 
Howard), the Command code that is a part of the github gem (by Chris 
Wanstrath), the Application code that is a part of Puppet and I'm sure 
at least a dozen other reimplementations hidden in various gems and 
libraries.

I found Rake, Thor and Main gave me too much friction for the type of 
CLI tool I was interested in. Option parsing DSLs that were cumbersome, 
cryptic error handling and unweildy API design for my use case. That 
said, please try them and see if they work for you.

There are probably another dozen tools I haven't found yet or forgot 
didn't mention. Github queries for "Ruby CLI" and similar return a 
staggering number of results. I'd welcome any suggestions for my own 
use as well.

Finally I recently wrote a very small sub-command DSL gem[1] in a fit 
of my own NIH. It almost certainly doesn't do what you wantbut you are 
welcome to try it. The design goal was to do one thing (subcommands) 
and do it well, and to get out of your way and let you use your own 
tools for everything else. I would welcome feedback.

[1] http://github.com/reinh/commandant


-- 
Rein Henrichs
http://puppetlabs.com
http://reinh.com


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