From: Jeremy Kemper Date: 2010-03-31T04:24:58+09:00 Subject: Re: [ANN] Ruby Summer of Code 2010 Hey jbw, On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:24 AM, jbw wrote: > Hi Jeremy, > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Jeremy Kemper wrote: >> Hi jbw, >> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:02 AM, jbw wrote: >>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:00 PM, jbw wrote: >>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Roger Pack wrote: >>>>> Jeremy Kemper wrote: >>>>>> Fellow Rubyists, I'm proud to announce the first annual Ruby Summer of >>>>>> Code. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the best tradition of Google's legendary summers of code, Ruby >>>>>> Central, Engine Yard [1], and the Rails team [2] have joined forces to >>>>>> muster a legend of our own, a new summer program for student Rubyists >>>>>> to flex their open source might. >>>>>> >>>>>> * Students are paid a $5000 stipend to work full-time during their >>>>>> summer break. >>>>> >>>>> One suggestion for future years might be to allow non-students.  Since >>>>> 1) we're not google SoC so we can, and 2) if somebody can do it full >>>>> time then why not... >>>>> >>>> >>> I think the goal of getting younger developers involved in open source >>> is important and allowing non-students might make it harder for >>> younger developers, that's with the assumption all young people are >>> students :p >> >> College-student status is a measure that has worked well for Google so >> we're cargo-culting and running with it this year. Primarily, it >> filters out professional developers who would treat the program as a >> three-month contract gig and gain nothing from it but a paycheck. > > How will you stop this, if you even want to, then next time? I don't know. This is a challenge for next spring. >> But, there are many paths to discovering the joys of Ruby and open >> source participation. We're not huge fans of adding age and schooling >> discrimination on top of that. > > Maybe the rsoc isn't one of those paths, but another type of soc for > non-students, professionals? > If professionals are able to participate I doubt as many people would > invest money if they're unsure on whether they're going to be > basically handing out pay checks to seasoned developers. I think it > would be in the investors interest to see more 'new' developers in the > future. > > Google uses age and schooling as a measure to meet their goal of > getting more young developers involved, i guess > you have a different goals in mind which is cool :) Similar goal, broader measure. No reason to limit to those who opt in to (and can afford) college. We want all up-and-coming Rubyists to participate. By no means does this mean making it a pro game. Hence, my suggestion: >> So perhaps we treat it like the Olympics: amateurs only. Next year! We have a big summer ahead, now. Best, jeremy >> >> Next year, I hope to see plumbers switching careers and retirees >> unlearning COBOL, too! >> >> jeremy >> >> > > jbw > >