From: thunk Date: 2010-03-28T12:40:42+09:00 Subject: Re: Boid writeup idea I have spent the last 4 years thinking about async distributed systems. I am not a AI researcher but I do work with statistical classifiers for computer vision. This system sounds like an expert system that asserts things in a distributed manner. ====================== this is for tonight - i need to get some actual walk'n done, my walk'n to talk'n t ratio is getting wacked.... Yup! Name a specific "working system" and these Boids will be getting zinged all over the place. take my domain, sorta, if I was doing the critical drugs and working with the experts (that I think I should be working with) then there would logically be a "central" gathering place for all boids to be vetted. for boids to be refitted or maybe removed. visualize the scene from star-wars where the little fighter planes are being repaired and refitted to fight the evil empire. like that. Then the regional hospital (i think) would have their patient records - and I'd say that every medical record could be easily bombarded by 100,000 or so boids looking for ANYTHING THAT IS IMPORTANT - and that could be as mundane as Bertha Schmitts turning 60 and overdue for some review given some condition. Like that. tHAT would be, ahh mundane but much more exciting things, I can guarantee you, would come out of it because CHANGE is happening all over all the time and the Doctors cannot possibly be expected to keep up with it. Then there is the whole "official" lawyer/big pharm list - that moves at the speed of cold sludge - I'd suggest there should be a much faster changing, more versatile, more safety based list that is totally separate. Multiple VIEWS are something sets of Boids could do without working up a sweat by just changing the source info - the hospital could decide to use both lists or one or the other depending on their policies. There are economics in this too. Lots of money to be considered. if a drug falls off patent and there is a suitable generic at 25% the cost - that has become available from a reputable vetted house - who informs whom when? This is a really "automatic" kind of fall off a log thing that Boids could do to save millions instead of just talking about it. maybe its being done somewhere, but i've seen zero sign of it here. again the first domain was conceived to be a shopping basket of computer components at newegg/compusa type places. what a cool time to fire! a bunch of boids at something? Right there before you agree to pay for your parts, let a system of boids crawl over your parts and see if they fit this way and that - did you remember the CPU heatsink grease, are your cables long enough, are the fans adequate, are you about to pay $300 for a case when there is a open box special on one for $100 that is better - all time based things but the same 2000 boids could just get fired at every shopping basket. if the guy is buying 3 cpus and no motherboard then the system level guys need to call off the swarms 'cause that not a "system". Let me ramble on? I'm doing "testing" or whatever you guys wanna call it now by generating 1000's of simulated patient records in a "two screen" system. screens exist between the sender and the reader. thinking of what goes into each screen is how things have to start. It could be a potential investor + 100,000 different investment opportunities - meat * potatoes stuff but the same boids just getting re-used as you slap the investor into one screen, and the momentary opportunities into the other over and over and over until something comes out of it. It could be short plays, take over possibilities on a daily basis anything like that. There's a lot of time value to things like that and indeed I was trying to get MorningStar interested in chatting about this stuff sometime back for education purposes. I had a system hooked up to a speech system so the market was being announced to me like horse race - with this very pleasant female voice - my momsie-in-law thought I was having too much fun, and she was right. and now back to work, time to get those ratios back in line. thunk