[#358392] Increase significant digits in Float — Jason Lillywhite <jason.lillywhite@...>

If I want to increase my significant digits beyond 15 in a result of a

12 messages 2010/03/02

[#358431] A gem for handling temporary file(s)? — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...>

I'm writing a program that needs to generate two or three temporary

21 messages 2010/03/03
[#358432] Re: A gem for handling temporary file(s)? — Paul Harrington <xenogenesis@...> 2010/03/03

Albert Schlef wrote:

[#358443] Re: A gem for handling temporary file(s)? — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/03/03

Paul Harrington wrote:

[#358486] Re: A gem for handling temporary file(s)? — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/03/03

On 3/2/10, Albert Schlef <albertschlef@gmail.com> wrote:

[#358485] Test::Unit::Omission - Unable to omit tests — Champak Ch <champaka@...>

I am trying to omit some tests while using the test unit framework. My

12 messages 2010/03/03

[#358551] Shared hosting recommendation? — Rafael Vega <email.rafa@...>

Hello!

10 messages 2010/03/04

[#358559] Limit number of concurrent running threads in pool — Joe Martin <jm202@...>

Hi

14 messages 2010/03/04

[#358576] A good portable text editor/IDE for Ruby? — Reiichi Tyrael <xxreiichixx@...>

I am searching for a good portable text editor or IDE for Ruby to use on

19 messages 2010/03/05

[#358586] Base-64 encoding--Just for the fun of it! — "Aaron D. Gifford" <astounding@...>

Yes, there's always:

10 messages 2010/03/05

[#358611] On what of these books is better to start to study Ruby? — Vlad Gerasimov <refermaker@...>

I have 3 books:

12 messages 2010/03/05

[#358634] Conditional keys in hash - out of the box? — "Sven S." <svoop@...>

Hi

12 messages 2010/03/05

[#358661] Why no TextMate for Linux? — thunk <gmkoller@...>

I spent some happy development time in "VisualAge" for Smalltalk +

42 messages 2010/03/06

[#358702] win32console 1.3.0.beta2 Released — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...>

win32console version 1.3.0.beta2 has been released!

17 messages 2010/03/07

[#358757] Shortest code — Prasanth Ravi <dare.take@...>

hi i'm a newbie in ruby and was test out some interesting problems in

18 messages 2010/03/08

[#358885] reading an UTF-8 encoded file — unbewusst.sein@... (Une B騅ue)

13 messages 2010/03/10

[#359008] Dir.glob problem — David Vlad <cluny_gisslaren@...>

In the program Im making I need to read some wma files into a variable

21 messages 2010/03/12

[#359031] Newbie Help : Object — Jerome David Sallinger <imran.nazir@...>

Hello,

14 messages 2010/03/13

[#359090] Overriding new? — Andrea Dallera <andrea@...>

Hi everybody,

19 messages 2010/03/15
[#359091] Re: Overriding new? — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...> 2010/03/15

[#359093] Re: Overriding new? — Andrea Dallera <andrea@...> 2010/03/15

Hei Chuck,

[#359130] Recommended way to install Rubygems — Leslie Viljoen <leslieviljoen@...>

Hi!

64 messages 2010/03/16
[#359175] Re: Recommended way to install Rubygems — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2010/03/17

On Mar 16, 2010, at 03:22, Leslie Viljoen wrote:

[#359176] Re: Recommended way to install Rubygems — Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@...> 2010/03/17

(Please Cc me when replying, I don't follow ruby-talk@ closely enough to

[#359183] Re: Recommended way to install Rubygems — Nick Brown <nick@...> 2010/03/18

Lucas: Thanks for maintaining the Ruby package in Ubuntu!

[#359187] Re: Recommended way to install Rubygems — Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@...> 2010/03/18

On 18/03/10 at 13:36 +0900, Nick Brown wrote:

[#359200] Re: Recommended way to install Rubygems — Nick Brown <nick@...> 2010/03/18

Lucas Nussbaum wrote:

[#359204] Re: Recommended way to install Rubygems — Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@...> 2010/03/18

On 18/03/10 at 23:05 +0900, Nick Brown wrote:

[#359210] Re: Recommended way to install Rubygems — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2010/03/18

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Lucas Nussbaum

[#359215] Re: Recommended way to install Rubygems — Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@...> 2010/03/18

On 18/03/10 at 23:45 +0900, Rick DeNatale wrote:

[#359230] Re: Recommended way to install Rubygems — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...> 2010/03/18

Lucas Nussbaum wrote:

[#359233] Re: Recommended way to install Rubygems — Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@...> 2010/03/18

On 19/03/10 at 02:49 +0900, Aldric Giacomoni wrote:

[#359171] Replace Text at Specific Positions Across Files — Shiny Hydra <slotriof@...>

Hello everyone,

12 messages 2010/03/17
[#359192] Re: Replace Text at Specific Positions Across Files — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/03/18

2010/3/17 Shiny Hydra <slotriof@guerrillamailblock.com>:

[#359198] Re: Replace Text at Specific Positions Across Files — Shiny Hydra <slotriof@...> 2010/03/18

> So your file has fixed width records? This is important to know,

[#359255] Grouping elements of an array — Steve Wilhelm <steve@...831.com>

I have an array of records that contain timestamps at random intervals.

24 messages 2010/03/18

[#359354] Living with a Swarm of Boids - A report from the front — thunk <gmkoller@...>

Hi,

15 messages 2010/03/20

[#359388] A plugin system using extend — Jean-denis Vauguet <jd@...>

Hi.

17 messages 2010/03/21
[#359394] Re: A plugin system using extend — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/03/21

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Jean-denis Vauguet <jd@vauguet.fr> wrote:

[#359398] Re: A plugin system using extend — Jean-denis Vauguet <jd@...> 2010/03/21

Thank you Josh. Actually I've already tested what you wrote and that's

[#359402] Re: A plugin system using extend — Jean-denis Vauguet <jd@...> 2010/03/21

Another idea I had is the following:

[#359410] Re: A plugin system using extend — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2010/03/21

On Mar 21, 2010, at 2:13 AM, Jean-denis Vauguet wrote:

[#359420] Reading contents of all files from a Directory — Hawksury Gear <blackhawk_932@...>

Hello,

23 messages 2010/03/21
[#359422] Re: Reading contents of all files from a Directory — Jonathan Nielsen <jonathan@...> 2010/03/21

> I am trying to "Read Content" of all the files from a Directory. So far

[#359423] Re: Reading contents of all files from a Directory — Jonathan Nielsen <jonathan@...> 2010/03/21

> arr =3D Dir.open("K:/test").entries

[#359464] Re: Reading contents of all files from a Directory — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/03/22

2010/3/21 Jonathan Nielsen <jonathan@jmnet.us>:

[#360368] Re: Reading contents of all files from a Directory — Hawksury Gear <blackhawk_932@...> 2010/04/04

> If it is only for output purposes, we can actually do it in one line:

[#360370] Re: Reading contents of all files from a Directory — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/04/04

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Hawksury Gear <blackhawk_932@hotmail.com> w=

[#360373] Re: Reading contents of all files from a Directory — Hawksury Gear <blackhawk_932@...> 2010/04/04

Thanks for replying ,when I am doing

[#360374] Re: Reading contents of all files from a Directory — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2010/04/04

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Hawksury Gear <blackhawk_932@hotmail.com> wrote:

[#360375] Re: Reading contents of all files from a Directory — Hawksury Gear <blackhawk_932@...> 2010/04/04

Hassan Schroeder wrote:

[#359662] index of string from beginning of line vs beginning of file — "Jesse B." <jessebos@...>

I am trying to write a basic script to implement "silent comments"

10 messages 2010/03/25
[#359663] Re: index of string from beginning of line vs beginning of file — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/03/25

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Jesse B. <jessebos@aol.com> wrote:

[#359684] Ruby Summer of Code 2010 — Jeremy Kemper <jeremy@...>

Fellow Rubyists, I'm proud to announce the first annual Ruby Summer of Code.

20 messages 2010/03/26
[#359985] Re: [ANN] Ruby Summer of Code 2010 — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/03/30

Jeremy Kemper wrote:

[#359697] Ruby and user documentation — Michel Demazure <michel@...>

Hi all,

20 messages 2010/03/26

[#359749] Boid writeup idea — thunk <gmkoller@...>

30 messages 2010/03/26

[#359909] return number of spaces at the beginning of a line — "Jesse B." <jessebos@...>

How would I find the number of spaces at the beginning of a line before

28 messages 2010/03/30
[#359925] Re: return number of spaces at the beginning of a line — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/03/30

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Jesse B. <jessebos@aol.com> wrote:

[#359941] Re: return number of spaces at the beginning of a line — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/03/30

2010/3/30 Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com>:

[#359945] Re: return number of spaces at the beginning of a line — "Jesse B." <jessebos@...> 2010/03/30

This second post with the "spaces only" fix seems to meet all the needs

[#359961] Re: return number of spaces at the beginning of a line — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/03/30

2010/3/30 Jesse B. <jessebos@aol.com>:

[#360011] RubyDictionary - First Try — Max Schmidt <max.schmidt.privat@...>

Hello folks,

12 messages 2010/03/30
[#360035] Re: RubyDictionary - First Try — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/03/31

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Max Schmidt

[#360033] Playing Games with "Ruids" — thunk <gmkoller@...>

46 messages 2010/03/31

Re: Recommended way to install Rubygems

From: Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...>
Date: 2010-03-18 14:45:35 UTC
List: ruby-talk #359210
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Lucas Nussbaum
<lucas@lucas-nussbaum.net> wrote:
> On 18/03/10 at 23:05 +0900, Nick Brown wrote:

> In Debian, we do not ship software without appropriately describing what
> other packages are required (as dependencies) to use it. ruby1.8-elisp
> is a separate package that depends on emacs, so that is fine. But if we
> wanted to ship the content of ruby1.8-elisp inside an hypothetical
> full-featured ruby package, the right thing to do would be to depend on
> emacs. This could become an interesting issue on some of the
> architecture debian supports.
>
>> But just yesterday I was trying to install mechanize (via rubygems) on
>> my 9.10 system, and it kept failing because 'net/https' was missing. And
>> I was scratching my head wonder why the heck a core piece of ruby like
>> that wouldn't be there... I thought perhaps my disk was going dead on
>> me... I eventually figured out what was up after some searching of the
>> net, but I think this illustrates the sort of confusion that can arise.
>
> OpenSSL doesn't have a lot of fans, because of its licence that prevents
> it from being linked to GPL software. Yes, it could be possible to ship
> openssl.so and readline.so in the same package, but then it would be
> harder to argue that Debian does enough to protect the linking of
> readline (GPLv2) with openssl. The situation would be much simpler if
> Ruby switched to GNU TLS, for example.
>
>> The easiest way to solve this problem would be to rename "ruby" to
>> "ruby-core" or something, then rename "ruby-full" to "ruby". This would
>> allow the few who want partial ruby installs to still do so, but the
>> great masses of users (and hosting providers!) who expect the package
>> called "ruby" to be all of ruby will be spared confusion and
>> frustration.
>
> I really think that this problem is a minor one, and not worth all the
> noise around it. I'll see with the other maintainers if there's a way we
> can improve the situation slightly. But the licensing issues involved
> make me fear that it is unlikely.


Really, sometimes the requirements of keeping the packages in a distro
in-line are at odds with what some users need to do with the software
being packaged.

Not trying to be controversial here, but the discussion could be about
who owns Jerusalem.

The Debian policies are aimed at keeping the overall system under
control moving from one consistent set of package versions to another.

For some people that works well, even for Ruby.  But others have the
requirement to treat components in a more flexible way.

For example, we might need to run different versions of gems on the
same machine for different applications.  We might run applications
using different versions of Rails, again for example.  This is why
gems has the unpack command and why Rails allows gems to be vendored.
The base capability to have multiple versions of gems installed at the
same time is key.  Gems which have been converted to (debian) packages
lose this ability, I think.

We might need to run multiple versions of Ruby on the same system,
including 1.8.6, 1.8.7 and 1.9.x  If the package maintainer views
1.8.6 and 1.8.7 as the same 'version' this is problematical.

Rubyists have developed solutions like ruby switcher and rvm to deal
with this requirement.

If packaged Ruby works for someone, fine.  For a long time I've been
installing Ruby and rubygems from source on my Debian/Ubuntu systems,
as well as on my OS X machines, in a directory outside of the
territory claimed by the OS, at first manually and now with rvm.

If the packaged version of Ruby is used at all on my machines, it's
only by other packages which pre-req it, not by code I write.

>> Also: don't let the unfriendly tone one often encounters on the internet
>> get ya down. The medium itself seems to encourage that sort of thing...
>
> That's not a reason to consider it acceptable.

True enough, OTOH, I've found it a lot easier to live on the
inter-tubes if I develop a thick skin, and give everyone the benefit
of the doubt that they are not actively trying to be uncivil, even if
they express themselves in what I might perceive to be an uncivil
fashion.

-- 
Rick DeNatale

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