From: Sean Ob <sob4ever33@...>
Date: 2009-11-19T04:59:45+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby/tk Help Please

Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:
> Sean Ob wrote:
>> No, not homework, i've graduated, i'm just trying to learn more about 
>> web development
> 
> Then you're barking up the wrong tree with Ruby/Tk.  That's meant for 
> desktop app development.  Web development is totally different (and 
> easier!), and Tk has nothing to do with it; rather, you'll want to use a 
> Web framework. Rails is by far the most popular Ruby Web framework, 
> although there are others; you could even get along without a framework, 
> although I don't recommend it.
> 

Sorry, i meant software development, my mind is focused on web right now 
because i'm trying to find a list of ruby methods that allow the program 
to interact with a web browser.

>> and how to actually get programs i write to interact 
>> with real world applications.  
> 
 What do you mean?

when i was in school i learned about a lot of different code and what 
the code could do however it was things like, create a hash table, write 
a program to compute square root, write a size method, write a queue 
method, etc...
all of the building blocks yes, but never anything on how to put this 
knowledge to use in a real program that actually does something outside 
of the terminal.
this is my first time actually working with a gui.



> Then you're really not ready to think about them yet.  Read Programming 
> Ruby.  Read the Rails guides if you're planning to use Rails.  Try 
> something simple first.  The pieces will fall into place as you actually 
> create stuff.
> 

Do you mean the 'pickaxe' book? someone else told me that so i checked 
it out from the library and it had a lot of information but it also had 
a lot of bad (in my unexperienced opinion) explainations for how and why 
the code returned what it did

it gives you a simple example such as

def recur(a,b)
________a=c
________b.times(c = yield a)
________c
end
recur(2,4){|x| puts x}

but then doesn't explain in much detail what is going on before jumping 
into a super complex example with even less explanation.  Also, there is 
nothing about tk in the book, which is what i'm mostly interested in 
because i think creating gui's would be pretty cool if i could get good 
at it.

> Bonus tip: do all development test-first (investigate RSpec and 
> Cucumber) -- no exceptions.  It feels slower at first, but it will save 
> you a lot of trouble.
> 

I don't know what you mean by this?


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