From: will Date: 2009-08-25T18:40:23+09:00 Subject: Re: _why's "suicide" note? Hello hello & hello My observation is a non-technical. At one time, I thought I'd like to add-value as a therapist -- Over the last couple of months I had my own personal and inter-personal meltdown. My comment is for the 10% to 15% of folk out there who see 'less supportive' comments and . . . You know WHAT? 'Pain' isn't relative and it isn't objective. To be honest, "it just hurts", or worse people will tell you it "sucks a hole" :-) My daughter called me to task, she has had her own load of stuff. She used to resist her counsellor sessions when she was a high-school musician. Now she's doing much better and she said to me, "just talk about it" -- With someone [professional] dad, it helps. Even with my background into psychology and behaviour, etc. -- I baulked. I remembered an Enigma line, popular among the Nilists and Goths from my earlier days: "You have to be week to be strong ..." (You might read Emo in 2009). I dunno if you have Life-Line in your corner of the 24 x 7 interworld. There's always a public good group out there ready to L.I.S.T.E.N and //respond//. When the statistical some of you have troubles in the future == Make a phone call. I put some resource links below from Oz. I sometimes wonder if a 1800- type IM line would be useful to the Gen-Y & Gen-X cadre? Comments would be interesting. Not on here, comp.lang.Ruby (I think). Why did I comment? Apart from my recent experiences/history ... A couple of good friends of mine used to work a national park rangers. It was not uncommon to see abandon cars atop the cliffs of natural beauty spots and gory evidence at the base. Anxiety and depression are for the "strong" people who say, things like (quote) <<... not "internet celebrity gossip board." >> (unquote). We've had a prolonged drought here; bush fires; floods; and now a global-financial-crisis. Stress is real. The effects are real. 'Superman' [Neitzsche] is a work of art. Well anyway, may be one person will see this and call someone, find help or support a friend. I did. I felt better for 5 of the days between my weekly sessions. OK, ... I'm going now -- One thing I see is that comp.lang.* is usually populated by /intellectual types/ who 'think' things in their head, philosophise, etc. That 'response' is inappropriate for 'this emotional stuff' -- It is like chewing and eating air. Oh! But you fart a lot!!! Good luck folks! . . . Will ---- * http://www.lifeline.org.au * http://www.beyondblue.org.au/index.aspx? * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_and_Superman (George B. Shaw) * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbermensch (or 'super man') On Aug 25, 6:36 pm, p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) wrote: > >>> -- > >> "Ruby mailing list," not "internet celebrity gossip board." > > >> Please stop this. > > No please do not. I respectfully disagree with your POV. The sequence > > of the twitter messages of _Why is *alarming* I do not like this. I > > would love if _why had the courage to "email" privately to me. I have > > the feeling he needs to talk. Talking is incredibly powerful, even > > more powerful than Ruby. > > Don't be alarmed.  In my youngth I also ditched computers once.   I > could not stand it more than one month.  If he doesn't get caught by > BigFoot, he'll be back sooner than later.