From: Marc Heiler <shevegen@...>
Date: 2009-05-16T06:40:39+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby based linux

Who cares if shoes is GTK based or not - it is a nice ruby app and 
should be included in a ruby-centric linux distribution in mind.

First things first though, answers:

> 1. editor you use most with ruby?

bluefish, geany, and redcar

Since redcar is written in ruby and vala, and the author is on freenode
IRC and friendly, I think in the long run such a distribution should 
focus
on redcar. I used to use vim a lot but after about 2 years I grew tired 
of
learning more and more... I want a simple editor, not a mnemo contest.

The other two editors dont offer all features I would like to have,
but they did the job and I didnt care that much about the editor (brain
and documentation is more important anyway)

> 2. packages you require as a developer that may not involve ruby?

Just fill stuff up. I am fine with most WMs and Desktop Environments.

Personally I think you should focus on KDE or GTK. But dont exclude the 
other.

What I mean is, focus on the DE which has the nicer overall support and
people who use that. But also try to make room for the other - for 
example,
I use KDE a lot, and I love KDE4, plasmoids and the idea behind.

But I use ruby-gtk because the documentation was a lot better. I simply
found it easier to enter the ruby-gtk world. (But as written, I think
in the long run, the KDE approach is better. It also depends on how many 
people
use ruby-specific toolkits, and shoes is always nice to keep around)


> 3. I want to use allot of shoes stuff, or at least have it available.
> Since shoes is gtk based I was going to go with Gnome or Xfce desktop
> enviroment..opinions?

XFCE is nice but it isnt ruby specific anywhere.
There are no fancy bindings.

Either KDE or Gnome. This is your decision ultimately. I would go with 
both, actually. And in case one needs more space, kill all man pages and 
other boring static documentation.

> Name ideas?

I have no name suggestion, but since it is based on Ubuntu - and by the 
way,
I personally refuse to use debian based systems for their package 
splittup madness - it should somewhat refer to Ubuntu. How about 
RUbuntu.
Or RubyTu. Or Rubified Ubuntu. Or ... red lightning. Or ... red carpet.
(omg...)
Or ... matz hamsters (what is the japanese word for a hamster... 
ruby-hamster)

> Artwork....wallpaper, icons, logo(once I have a name

Seriously, I think the more important part is the foundation. If the
foundation is weak, the whole thing will collapse. Anyone recalls the
story of RubyX / Heretix? Well, I do ... it was a sad one.

> once in production I would like to have the site done in Rails just to
> be as Ruby as possible.

Would be nice. I dont use rails, but it would be ruby-specific, so I am 
fine.

BTW you rails people, please.... can you focus on ONE blog engine that 
can compete with wordpress? Never mind trac (python) or phpbb (php).

People who USE RUBY a lot, do USE WORDPRESS because it offers features 
which
they appreciate!
</sorry_for_off_topic_rant>

Anyway, I dont have any strong feeling about this, except for XFCE - I 
like XFCE, but I think it would be misplaced. (Unless one would go with 
ruby-gtk, but even then I think it is better to focus on GNOME + 
ruby-gtk, rather than XFCE. If size is an issue, fluxbox is even smaller 
and nice enough for sure :P )
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