From: Chad Perrin <perrin@...>
Date: 2009-04-24T04:58:37+09:00
Subject: Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth

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On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 04:55:08AM +0900, Phlip wrote:
> > With the starting conditions and the correct model a chaotic system
> > can be predicted because it is fundamentally deterministic.
> > With the starting conditions and a set of experimental data the model
> > is derivable from observation, given sufficient observations.
> > Without the starting conditions, all bets are off.
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> The solution to Zeno's Paradox is the "infinitesmals" concept. Your=20
> paragraph misunderstands the Butterfly Effect. The Effect means that the=
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> deterministic prediction is always impossible because the starting=20
> conditions are always infinitesmal.

You appear to be using a definition of "impossible" that doesn't match up
with my own.


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> Put another way, the only "correct model" is the entire universe, and we =
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> within it, so we can't use a model, and must look at trends.=20

Do you realize that, if what you just said is true, most of the supposed
evidence of anthropogenic global warming is invalid?

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Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth Marvin Minsky: ". . . anyone could learn Lisp in 1 day, except
that if they already knew Fortran, it would take 3 days."

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