From: Christophe Mckeon <chromatophore@...>
Date: 2009-04-23T07:17:53+09:00
Subject: Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth


> One thing I've learned during my short time on Earth is that people
> will _always_ feel the doomsday coming.  Just look at history.

ok, lets look at history. history is positively strewn with the 
shipwrecks of failed civilizations. if you want to talk about humility 
then why should we assume that we are immune to the same forces they 
were subject to, but only this time on a much greater scale and with a 
much weakened biosphere.

on the other hand, never in history has there been a time when the 
majority of scientists in multiple fields of study were telling 
everybody else that we are in deep doodoo for one reason or another. 
that is a completely new phenomenon.

> With that said, I'm also a fan of people doing some permaculture as a
> benefit, and not as a stance of how we should live with some sort of
> absolution.

i am glad to hear that. i agree that doom & gloom in and of itself is 
counterproductive, but to honestly face the situation and act upon it is 
not. if you do not tell it like it is, then how on earth are you going 
to act upon it?

i think that if you take the science seriously, just picking any one of 
the problems we are facing, because surely you cannot deny all of them, 
and any one of them are quite enough to sink us, then you cannot in good 
conscience believe that we are living the right way.

it is not my or anybody else's place to say what the right way is, 
that's a job for all of us to decide upon, and there are plenty of 
avenues now open for positive/creative action.


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