From: Robert Dober <robert.dober@...>
Date: 2009-04-13T17:56:20+09:00
Subject: Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth

On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Pedro Wood <mail_pedro@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
>
> Putting all the people in the same bag is always a bad idea. I think there
> are as many people as different ideas in the "green movement".
>
> In particular I see science and technology as the main source for been
> ecological: solar power, wind power, ... energy-efficient buildings,
> cars....energy-saving lamps, fridges....recycling, biodegradable plastic,
> etc., etc., etc.
>
> We won't need to stop using our cars, cars will use hydrogen or whatever
> other clean energy.
>
> But I think we need to support this and also buy more time for science and
> technology to get there. I think simple things can buy us more time e.g:
> switching to energy saving lamps, use the computer to read instead of
> printing,  turn off what you are not using, not letting the water run while
> you look in the mirror =P, ...and many many other things you can do that are
> very simple and easy to do and don't imply resigning to anything.
>
> Cheers,

Well said indeed, but you have made me think of something else, my pet
argument, diversity ;).

Maybe tolerance, the ability to handle our natural fears of what is
different will be the main achievement of our evolution. In other
words, although myself I pretty much adhere to Pedro's point of views,
I can still imagine that those who want to go farer and refute some of
our technology and try to form autonomous "less advanced(1)" forms of
society should not induce fear but should be greeted as possible
alternative forms of society from which we can learn. There are limits
to that of course, knowledge should not be lost in education, so that
their offsprings have the free choice(2) to choose between the
different societies.
The only thing I am afraid of is that they tell me what I have to do,
but for that very reason I am not going to tell them what to do
either.

(1) from our point of view, they will say the same thing about us rightfully.
(2) this is a social problem about education and role models anyway,
but fortunately we have those revolutionary years which make us seek
out...

Cheers
Robert
>
> Pedro
>
>
>



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There are some people who begin the Zoo at the beginning, called
WAYIN, and walk as quickly as they can past every cage until they get
to the one called WAYOUT, but the nicest people go straight to the
animal they love the most, and stay there. ~ A.A. Milne (from
Winnie-the-Pooh)