From: Bill Kelly Date: 2009-04-13T13:17:25+09:00 Subject: Re: newbie confusion and dejection From: "Reg" > > When I learn a language I usually manage to cobble together a simple > hello world type of executable app or script and build on my mistakes > from there. but I cannot work out how to do this or get a ruby script > running. I'm not trying to discourage you from learning Rails, but you may be interested to know there are equally powerful alternatives. Take a look at how simple it is to get a "Hello, World" app going in Ramaze: http://ramaze.net/learn/getting-started I realize this just boils down to personal preference, but I never liked the way Rails likes to generate a skeleton of dozens of files when beginning a new app. In contrast, frameworks like Ramaze let you start simple, and add complexity when you decide you need it. Regards, Bill