From: Chad Perrin Date: 2009-04-11T09:46:32+09:00 Subject: Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:42:06AM +0900, Bill Kelly wrote: >=20 > But i don't find romantic notions about saving the planet > from annihilation to be helpful. >=20 > To me, the question is better framed in terms of how long > homo sapiens are planning to be around. Less than a billion > years? Or more than a billion years? >=20 > If less, well, then we can solve ALL of the problems=20 > mentioned by Christophe in one generation. Stop having kids. > But that still won't save the planet from annihilation. >=20 > If we're planning to be around more than a billion years, > then at some point we'll be deciding which (remaining) > species to bring with us as we colonize the galaxy. >=20 > In the meantime, I agree there are strong indicators we > need to become better custodians of our planet's environment > and resources than we have been recently. Or we won't last > long enough to build the space ships. Attempts to "save" the planet might actually be successful past a billion years. The technological singularity is predicted within the next thirty or forty years, roughly (estimates vary). Who knows what we might learn in a post-singularity world? We might even be able to weather the Sun's senility without having to go anywhere. Maybe we'll find a way to make life *better*, thanks to the abundant energy arriving from that nuclear furnace in the sky. =2E . . but we won't be able to do so if we abandon computers in favor of highly systematized dirt farming. Whether we save the planet or emigrate, we're going to need computers to get there. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anne McClintock, University of Wisconsin: "The decisions that really matter are made outside the democratic process." --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknf55YACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVwlACeMC2saNiFfEUQ0/XCV/bv/amB HzIAnRMMOrFa8xDphnXcLT4qN/bR7Adx =TKNm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx--