From: Robert Dober Date: 2009-04-07T17:59:37+09:00 Subject: Re: [Ann] Verify, a very basic testing tool. On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Jeremy McAnally wrote: > Though, I do have a question/concern/confusion/something.  I > completely and utterly fail to see the point of these new closure > obsessed frameworks or tools. I do not speak for everyone, but using closures just seems to be right, it hides the data, avoids any possible clash and is very elegant, but that is my personal view. If you do not like closures it will be difficult to understand those who like them, unless you undergo the trouble to work with closures yourself and decide if it gives you an edge or not. Furthermore I believe that using closures allows you to look a little but farther than Ruby, which might be a good thing.  I like closures as much as > the next guy, but I don't see how they revolutionize my testing life. I would not think that this has anything to do with testing. All I want to achieve is to minimize the risk that the user of a framework stumbles into a debugging nightmare because she stepped on the feet of the framework. > > Oh that was a rant? I thought it was a very sensible question and I am not cynical here at all. Did I waste my time? > > Aimed much less at you, and more at the 4-5 of these I've seen in the > past few days. No offense taken ... bones ;) R.