From: parrt@... Date: 2008-09-26T15:19:38+09:00 Subject: my ears are burning... ;) Hi Gang, sorry I seem to have pissed off the ruby gang. :) Never could figure out why Ryan was mad at me. Oh well. Sorry for lack of Ruby support. Nobody has been working on it. I wish somebody would. Hopefully that would make you less annoyed with ANTLR. A couple of nits. ANTLR does do some weird stuff in the lexer, though I did it on purpose as an expedient. That was pointed out bluntly to me, which I appreciate. I have it on the to do list. As for packrat etc... Turn on backtrack=true and ANTLR throttles up from LL(1) to LL(*) to a PEG as necessary. Memoization only occurs if you say so, either on grammar or on rule. I have plans to have ANTLR suggest where you should memoize. Lots of cool optimzation will happen once I finish my next book. Getting there. I worked 7 days a week for about 4 years to get v3.0 done then the book. then more code. now another book on DSL design patterns. As for my attitude, most think I'm quite a nice guy. Even a few students! ;) I do go off the reservation a few times a year, though. :) I have a few buttons that set me off related to demands people make about my software. I work nonstop on them for free etc... Anyhoo, not sure how I ran you guys off, but sorry. Well, not sorry if it's "heh, dumbass why don't you have a ruby target yet" ;) ha! Hopefully somebody will get the Ruby target working! Pretty cool that the retargetable codegen works, eh? Got a guy doing emacs Lisp at the moment, if you can believe it! Oh, and watch for ANTLRMorph, a super cool rewrite system that lets you speak in the concrete syntax of the language like [stat ... expr]: "x+0" -> "" that means "in expr in a statement, replace x+0 with x". Lots more cool things for quick tweaks of code for which you have a grammar. Regards from SF, Terence