From: "Clinton D. Judy" <cdj@...>
Date: 2008-09-15T21:23:51+09:00
Subject: Re: A menubar for Shoes?

Can I encourage you to keep a consistent vision for Shoes? I think it's
easy to make GUI toolkits more complicated than they need to be. I'm
looking forward to the "easiness" of Shoes. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: _why [mailto:why@ruby-lang.org] 
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:27 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: A menubar for Shoes?

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 07:54:33PM +0900, Andy Joel wrote:
> But not for a Ruby Shoes application. There is a good reason why 
> menus have been a part of GUIs for well over twenty years - they work 
> very well. I think this is a serious ommission from the toolkit, and
it 
> surprises me that no one else on the web sees it that way.

I think Shoes will have menus before the end of the year.  All
arguments aside, my compelling reason for adding menus would be
because OS X insists on giving every app a menu.  And it hurts the
app if you can't customize that menu.

Yeah, I know it probably seems horrific that this isn't done already.
Shoes just isn't a "GUI" toolkit.  Not like wxWidgets or FOX or QT or
any of those.  I want to make it fun and light and easy to use.
Whatever that means.  And I just haven't figured out how to fit
menus into that yet.

_why