From: Phlip <phlip2005@...>
Date: 2008-09-12T21:18:18+09:00
Subject: Re: A menubar for Shoes?

Various combatants wrote:

>  Menus are a ubiquious part of GUIs; users know how to use them and what
>  to expect.

Menus are a Help system that lets you actually do the helped thing. They should 
also display the keystroke shortcut for an action. But...

> There are other ways how to present a "Save" feature to the user.
> There are bazillions of applications out there that have a "Save"
> button on every graphics enabled platform I have seen.

That's because the Save concept is itself broken. A user saves to create a 
"checkpoint" they can revert to. If the program actually presented the Revert 
itself, as a kind of Undo, then every action should mirror on the hard drive, 
and the program would be less naive-user hostile.

-- 
   Phlip