From: Joshua Ballanco Date: 2008-09-05T23:11:56+09:00 Subject: Who's Charles angry at? Well, I just came across this in my feed reader: http://blog.headius.com/2008/09/elephant.html Mymymy...such vitriol! Look, I've never had anything against JRuby. In fact, I'm very interested (and less involved than I should be) in MacRuby (which, I noticed, did _not_ get a mention in that rant). I also feel like Rubinius is an interesting project. That said, I've always worried that Ruby is heading down Smalltalk's slippery slope. What heartened me a bit was that all of the various implementations (excluding MagLev...whatever happened to those guys?) are FOSS, and there is an active process attempting to standardize Ruby. You can find the page over on PBWiki: http://ruby-design.pbwiki.com/ ...or at least it was active? I know the late summer lends itself more to vacations than days-long hack-fests. Still, it'd be nice to know that there will be more coming down the pipe from the ruby-design process. Ruby 1.9 looks good. I think I'd feel a lot better about JRuby if I knew their group was on-board with the whole 1.8-->1.9-->2.0 process. I realize there is a lot of practical vs principle going on here, still... So really then, what is it going to take? I don't think Ruby will fade to obscurity, but it would be nice to see it succeed at least as much as Python seems to have. If that success involves JRuby, I'm perfectly o.k. with that! -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.