From: Robert Dober <robert.dober@...>
Date: 2008-07-05T04:03:56+09:00
Subject: Re: from ruby/RoR to Java (framework unknown) :(

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 8:21 PM, S2 <x@y.z> wrote:
> Robert Dober wrote:
>
>> Of course there was, you stated it yourself above, "developers were
>> quite happy", sorry for my pessimistic look at this.
>
> I don't think they are *that* evil :)
>
>> Apart of the idea that jruby might come in handy this decision really
>> looks odd to me.
>
> No. jruby will not be an option. If that was the case I would not look for
> some other job. I think we/they are going to use the Seam Framework, but
> it's still not sure. They asked me to join the team who gets to evaluate
> the various available frameworks, but every time I look at a hibernate
> config file I get goose-flesh.
>
>> Maybe somebody wants to sink the ship?
>
> I don't think so. I think it's only ignorance.
>
>> Well at least, if they do, they
>> seem to be good at it sigh.
>
> Have some arguments I could tell management? You never know...

Sure, if you trust that they are honest, first thing to do is to ask
for their rationale.
Maybe, after all, it makes sense.
If they cannot share their agenda with you, I was probably a little
bit right, but if they can and  do you might be able to
trigger a discussion.

If e.g. you were guessing correctly, and I guess knowing the ship you
are sailing on there are some chances that you have, that they are
trying to get their development sharing spectrum smaller, you might be
able to give them different options (jruby might come into play
again). You might want to figure out some market trends, development
times etc.
In an ideal world you might get a chance to present Ruby's strengths :).

But in order to reason with somebody at first you have to trigger a
dialog, do you think you are in a position to do that?

Well good luck from the bottom of my heart.

Cheers
Robert