From: ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)
Date: 2002-01-05T02:52:45+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:30227] Re: should I use ruby instead of perl

In article <3C358F70.2040807@removejippii.fi>,
vekkuli ketkutin  <qvyht@removejippii.fi> wrote:
>
>
>Peter Hickman wrote:
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>> vekkuli ketkutin wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>simple question...
>>>
>> 
>> Too vague.
>> 
>> If you were to say "I'm doing research into prime numbers" (like I am)
>> then I would say the Ruby has better integer support than Perl and you
>> should therefore use Ruby.
>> 
>> If you were to say "I'm developing a site in mod_perl" then I would say
>> that you should stick with Perl for the moment as the Apache support
>> available in Perl is far superior the Ruby.
>> 
>> If you were to say "I'm developing a missile guidance system" then I
>> would say use ADA.
>> 
>> All languages have their strong points, you need to mix and match the
>> languages to the problems.
>> 
>> Simple questions only lead to further questions (as it should be).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>I saw this answer coming./ But being familiar with web, I always
>look for things in very zen way, not defining too strictly what I want
>to hear in beforehand.
>
>That would not drop some answers I might like to be interested in.
>
>
>
>Seriously:
>
>I need one solution for quick scripting, testing tool development,
>and making programs for my hobbies. I love Perl (no, not her -the language!)
>
>but oop with it is really pain.
>Ruby seems to have it in the way I want it, but I'm not familiar enough
>with ruby yet to make my decision.

As someone who formerly liked Perl a lot but decided that OO in Perl was 
just too ugly - I would suggest that Ruby is an excellent choice (or 
maybe to put it the other way, you are an excellent candidate for Ruby :).  

I programmed primarily in Perl for about 6 years and even did a fair bit 
of OO perl before I decided that it was just too painful on the eyes ;-)
I found out about Ruby about a year ago and withing a couple of weeks I 
felt more comfortable in Ruby than in Perl.  I think you'll find that 
coming from Perl you can be productive in Ruby after only a short time.

>
>Perl is swiss army knife but I'm looking more finnish army knife.
>Best I could get would be new perl version with full oo support
>not doing:
>
>each(@ar){print;}

I think you mean :
foreach(@ar){print;}

>
>but
>
>ar.each.print()

How about: 
ar.each { |element| print element }

>I should evaluate both but I 'm so lazy, you know

You should download Ruby and give it a try.  I suspect that you'll end up 
really liking it.  [But were you expecting to find  a different answer 
here? :) ]

Phil