From: Isaac Gouy Date: 2008-04-10T00:50:22+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby?EURO(tm)s not ready - an indepth essay --- Austin Ziegler wrote: > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Paul Brannan > wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 09:04:28PM +0900, Austin Ziegler wrote: > > > The single benchmark I pointed out was symptomatic, but the > problem > > > was ALWAYS that the shootout took itself too seriously, which > > > encouraged idiots to take it too seriously. And yes, *that* > message > > > has been constant in my criticisms of your pet project, Isaac. > > Sounds like a case of the pot calling the kettle black. > > Whatever. If people are willing to treat this thing with any > seriousness, far be it from me to stop them from being stupid. > > > > I didn't actually badmouth the shootout this time, Isaac. I said > that > > > the authors of the posts were idiots for using the shootout in a > > > serious comparison. > > I think you called the shootout "worthless." > > That's because it *is*. Its latest name change makes that clear: it's > a game. "3 a (1): a physical or mental competition conducted according to rules with the participants in direct opposition to each other" > It doesn't actually provide comparative value. It's not > badmouthing to say something that the thing says about itself. My > biggest beef with it (aside from people who take it seriously) is > that > it took itself too seriously for far too long. Yeah, there was a page > buried four links deep that said "this shouldn't be taken seriously", > but that's not what the majority of the pages said. For a LONG time. > > If, in fact, it doesn't take itself seriously anymore, I have no > problem with the shootout (or "benchmark game") as such anymore. I > instead have a problem with the fools who take it seriously. > > -austin > -- > Austin Ziegler * halostatue@gmail.com * http://www.halostatue.ca/ > * austin@halostatue.ca * http://www.halostatue.ca/feed/ > * austin@zieglers.ca > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com