From: Marc Heiler Date: 2008-02-17T12:51:43+09:00 Subject: Re: How to put a Ruby website online without rails > it's not likely I'll swim upstream on this one. I totally understand your point. I also have not had much luck on mod_ruby and eventually sticked to use .cgi pages. But it works nicely and kuwata-lab has this little add-on for reading error messages right in the .cgi page, instead of looking at the apache error log I also dont even embed any code into .html pages, everything is generated via ruby scripts here. Still need a restful event system, at best something that is very small and works without webrick too. One disadvantage I personally see with the rails way is that it is very rails specific. I dont want to be forced to think that way at all, even if its superior. And this is also one reason why I hope for more smart people like http://www.kuwata-lab.com/ so that there is more diversification. The www is very important in my opinion (and I preach on this topic too often anyway), and its also equally important to acknowledge this and improve on web-related things (mod_ruby) and help grow many more web-related projects. I think this was one reason of rails success, because people needed something for the web. I am also glad the situation has improved a lot in the last ~2 years on that, there are really many new projects and i hope they overcome the problems of other projects, like lack of docu or similar (like nitro, it had a big problem regarding documentation, and if you look at ogre3d i believe providing docu is always a big requirement, not only for understanding, BUT also for _learning_/_teaching_ other people. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.