From: Paul Stickney Date: 2008-01-16T03:11:41+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby Newbie If I had a penny for every time I saw some awful code influenced by learning awful languages (and yes, this includes my code too)... I stand by by answer. Do not learn poorly-designed languages unless there is a direct gain from it (eg: to put food on the table). It's easier to learn than to unlearn. Thank you for not kicking the straw-man. That was uncalled for on my part. As far as not answering the original question, I beg to differ: > Can I be a good web > programmer or develop my own web application by only learning Ruby? Or > do i need to start with JAVA and then Ruby? (I feel that I also covered most of the implicit non-questions culminating with: "...so that I can be enlightened".)