From: "Jörg W Mittag" Date: 2008-01-08T23:44:56+09:00 Subject: Re: STRONG dynamic typing favors tools..? John Papas wrote: > One of the things I like about languages like Java is that since it is > statically typed I get tools that assist me when I write code, for > example if I misspell a function name. This doesn't actually have anything to do with Java being statically typed. > What I really hate about dynamic languages is that, for example in > JavaScript if I misspell something there is no tool to find it [...] Again, this doesn't actually have anything to do with the dynamic nature of those languages. In fact, pretty much all of the features that are now associated with IDEs for static languages, were invented in Smalltalk IDEs: code completion, class browsers, automated refactoring tools, automated unit testing. The *only* reason for the differences between IDEs for static and dynamic languages is money: the Eclipse Java Development Tools are developed by dozens of highly paid full-time engineers with million dollar research budgets by IBM, Oracle, BEA etc. The Eclipse Ruby Development Tools were developed by a couple of hobbyists in their spare time, without getting paid, with no research budget at all, and even without knowing Eclipse programming. > Does the fact that Ruby is STRONG dynaically typed, assist tool > developers? Can I have tools with minimal analysis capabilities? Pretty much all current Ruby IDEs (RDT, DLTK, 3rd Rail, NetBeans, Ruby in Steel) have code completion, type inference, automated refactoring tools and a lot of the things you would expect from a modern IDE. But, again, this doesn't have anything to do with Ruby being "strongly typed", it has to do with Ruby being high on the hype curve and companies like Sun, CodeGear, Sapphire Steel and Aptana investing money in Ruby IDEs. jwm