From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" Date: 2008-01-06T15:49:41+09:00 Subject: Re: Zed Shaw - Ruby has dodged a bullet Paul Stickney wrote: >> APL, for example, probably would never have taken off if Kenneth >> Iverson had invented it in a university instead of at IBM. > > APL took off like the Spuce Goose. > [http://www.sprucegoose.org/aircraft_artifacts/exhibits.html] > > There was a time in the late 1960s -- mid 1970s when you couldn't walk into an econometrics shop without knowing APL. I don't think it ever found any other practical niches, but it was very big there. The current open dialect, Aplus-fsf, was in fact cut loose from Morgan Stanley. I would have *loved* to learn APL in its heyday. I was actually at IBM (Poughkeepsie, NY) when it was developed, and met Ken Iverson. He and Aden Falkoff were promoting the language within the IBM laboratories. But the team I was on had severe performance constraints and we wrote everything in assembler. After I left IBM, there was never an opportunity for me to learn and use it, and by the time personal computers showed up that could run APL, I had discovered Forth. :)